7 day cutoff is reasonable, but year round testing is needed

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  • guru
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    7 day cutoff is reasonable, but year round testing is needed

    I have alot of knowledge about steroids and some about HGH. heres some of what i know.

    - there are steroids that can be in and out of your system in a matter of days. so with a 7 day window, you can take steroids and get away with it. however you would not benefit from it in that short amount of time. there is no steroid that you can take and get results that fast.

    - as of a few years ago HGH was undetectable. they may have developed something recently that can detect it, IDK. If it is still undetectable then no amount testing will matter. if it can be detected, then we are back to same position as above, HGH will do nothing in a week. Also, HGH helps you grows new muscles, while steroids make them bigger. HGH is commonly used with steroids to get the max benefit.

    - NOW HERES THE BIG THING. it is possible to do a cycle, long before a fight. come into camp clean and pass all the testing and be stronger then you would be naturaly. yes you will lose size and strength when you come off a cycle and your system is clean, BUT you should still be stronger and bigger then you would naturally be.

    THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS NOT CHEATING IS YEAR ROUND RANDOM TESTING. and thats if they've developed something to detect HGH.


    Conclusion: if its not year round testing, you're not gonna know if the other has cheated or not.

    that leaves floyd with 4 options:
    1) drop the testing issue since it can be worked around if its not year round testing
    2) accept the 7 day cut off, since it means pac will at least be clean coming into the fight
    3) wait for pac to accept his demands. but doesnt mean pac still cant cheat since its not year round
    4) demand year round testing. set the fight date a year or more from now have pac tested til then.
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    #2
    I think we should let the experts make the decision on both counts.

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    • guru
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      #3
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      I think we should let the experts make the decision on both counts.
      make what decision?

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      • IMDAZED
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        #4
        Originally posted by guru
        make what decision?
        On what's reasonable and when to test.

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        • treason1
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          #5
          alll this talk of testing because 1 fighter is a coward

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          • IMDAZED
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            #6
            Originally posted by treason1
            alll this talk of testing because 1 fighter is a coward
            Basically. This should have been as big an issue as all the other ones but this guy is scared of needles or gets weak or whatever. Crazy.

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              #7
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              On what's reasonable and when to test.
              thats fine, im just informing people of what i know for sure. im in the sports entertainment field and i know people who beat the tests year round.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #8
                Originally posted by guru
                thats fine, im just informing people of what i know for sure. im in the sports entertainment field and i know people who beat the tests year round.
                Really? Im in the field as well, what do you do? Also, I honestly don't know why WADA doesn't do year-round for EVERY sport but we're getting so far ahead of ourselves. We don't have any kind of standard test in boxing. So if people can beat year-round, imagine what they're doing in boxing today.
                Last edited by IMDAZED; 12-07-2010, 02:11 PM.

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                • guru
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Really? Im in the field as well, what do you do? Also, I honestly don't know why WADA doesn't do year-round for EVERY sport but we're getting so far ahead of ourselves. We don't have any kind of standard test in boxing. So if people can beat year-round, imagine what they're doing in boxing today.
                  i am a pro wrestler and trainer. IMO, steroids and HGH should be allowed in pro sports. i dont consider it cheating. i consider it a supplement like creatine. its just a very powerful supplement.

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                  • Frank Ducketts
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by treason1
                    alll this talk of testing because 1 fighter is a coward
                    The real coward is that ***** with the big waffle iron head who likes to beat up on plodding, slow, left hook throwing weight weakend fighters. The real coward is the clown who didn't ask Torrecampo or Singsurat for a rematch lol...

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