Thoughts on PW, Sergio, Floyd and Pac

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  • Syf
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    #11
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    if pac or wifebeater fights martinez, I would give them big ups for even stepping in the ring. pac'll be giving up 20+ lbs... wifebeater abotu 15+ lbs. not really a fair fight.
    Interesting point..

    Consider though, Pac would go out to win or go out on his shield. Pac has a mountain of heart. A mountain range of heart. His heart is far greater than PW's.. its comes from a more disciplined place. He can and would dig deep and throw bombs of his own. Remember his assassination of Hatton? Now I'm not saying Hatton has Maravilla's chin, BUT, Hatton gave future HOF'er Kosta Tsyu all he can handle and more. And Kosta was an unusually heavy handed 140'er. Pac could possibly KO Maravilla if he sits down on his punches. Throwing at speed and angles to befuddle his opponent peppering him with power shots mixed in with stinging shots..until WHAM, he builds to a crescendo and sits on one.

    Another thing to consider about a Pac-Martinez matchup... Pac has his movement. Movement far superior to PW's or Maravilla's. One thing I've noticed about Pac, the way he neutralizes some of the damage he can be recieving. He has an excellent sense of distance. He can hover right in the right place to execute a whirlwind attack, and also put himself out of danger just as quickly. But when he DOES get hit.. he's in the perfect distance to make the punch not have as much crack as it might have. Thats how he got passed some of the heavy hitters like Cotto with his hooks, and a war torn Margarito.


    And Floyd's heart? Well its as our good friend ****m Richardson said.. with my own added twist: Floyd may be the worst human being in the world outside of the ring, though I would be inclined to say not quite.. But in the ring he is Floyd. He will struggle with just being defensive and adjusting in the first quarter of the fight to figure out Maravilla's movements and guage his deadly power... and that style, and his out of ring misadventures has him painted as this no heart cat. Well,,, Floyd aint gonna give up in the ring though. He would be pushed to his utmost limitation, but then he'd turn into a dragon.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Syf
      Interesting point..

      Consider though, Pac would go out to win or go out on his shield. Pac has a mountain of heart. A mountain range of heart. His heart is far greater than PW's.. its comes from a more disciplined place. He can and would dig deep and throw bombs of his own. Remember his assassination of Hatton? Now I'm not saying Hatton has Maravilla's chin, BUT, Hatton gave future HOF'er Kosta Tsyu all he can handle and more. And Kosta was an unusually heavy handed 140'er. Pac could possibly KO Maravilla if he sits down on his punches. Throwing at speed and angles to befuddle his opponent peppering him with power shots mixed in with stinging shots..until WHAM, he builds to a crescendo and sits on one.

      Another thing to consider about a Pac-Martinez matchup... Pac has his movement. Movement far superior to PW's or Maravilla's. One thing I've noticed about Pac, the way he neutralizes some of the damage he can be recieving. He has an excellent sense of distance. He can hover right in the right place to execute a whirlwind attack, and also put himself out of danger just as quickly. But when he DOES get hit.. he's in the perfect distance to make the punch not have as much crack as it might have. Thats how he got passed some of the heavy hitters like Cotto with his hooks, and a war torn Margarito.


      And Floyd's heart? Well its as our good friend ****m Richardson said.. with my own added twist: Floyd may be the worst human being in the world outside of the ring, though I would be inclined to say not quite.. But in the ring he is Floyd. He will struggle with just being defensive and adjusting in the first quarter of the fight to figure out Maravilla's movements and guage his deadly power... and that style, and his out of ring misadventures has him painted as this no heart cat. Well,,, Floyd aint gonna give up in the ring though. He would be pushed to his utmost limitation, but then he'd turn into a dragon.
      at some point the size advantage becomes too much. I think 15-20+ lbs is around that point.

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      • Syf
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        #13
        Oh come now PC.. You were the one that said Cotto was too big for Pac before their fight...

        There are other factors besides weight

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          #14
          anyways.. let me take another hit...


          So.


          Envision a world. A place of indescribable beauty and strength. Our favorite fighters live in that world. They are 10 times of us. Does this bother you? I would be sparked by Manny, Floyd, Sergio, AND PW and I am not ashamed to say... I simply do not train enough to be on their level of physicality. Could I? Maybe if I had found the motivation to train so religiously in at least my late teens early twenties.. I'm 30 on my next birthday.. That train has passed I guess I mean, I'm a little heavier than all of them and I have boxed and done kung fu so I would have a pretty powerful punch.. but I wouldn't have the WIND to face any of them. That training is like a full time job. I have a full time job already. Two actually, if you count my lady.. Where would I find the energy and TIME to train like that..

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