What does it take to beat Wladimir Klitschko?

[WladIsTheChamp]

Okay, I'll play your game are any of the names you listed as good as Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, etc. in your opinion? Stop being so sensitive I'm not trying to knock Wlad, you didn't even attempt to answer the original qestion in the opening post.

So you named 3 ATGs, of which 2 happened to lose to Wlad's victims if you remember. Sorry, try again my friend...

See below for the point of your thread, wasn't avoiding it, just wanted to set the record straight in regards to your comments. Perhaps, the "FAIL" was a little harsh...

[serv]

[QUOTE=FootWork777;9736527]He's been on tear as of late, but his level of competition has been underwhelming. I'm not trying to hate it's not his fault. I know he's suffered loses before like the one to Sanders but what do you think beats him? I've noticed that many of the HW he's fought recently are in terrible condition. You must be in great shape to beat either Klitschko brother, or have KO power. The only current heavyweight I give a slim chance against Wladimir is David Haye due to his power.[/QUOTE]

I agree

[J.R]

Again? Other speaking subjectively based on your own opinion, do you have proof that this is the case? If you remember, Wlad fought a lot of 90s guys who were champs or legitimate top contenders and crushed them - Mercer, Rahman, McCline, Barrett, Jefferson, Botha, Schulz, Byrd (twice)...

FAIL....

Key words..........Past it.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Key words..........Past it.

First fight, Byrd was past it? LOL try again...

[J.R]

First fight, Byrd was past it? LOL try again...

Alright, so apart from Byrd........... The rest? As the TS says, we are not trying to knock Wlad, only trying to discuss what tactics can possibly beat him but yet again, Klit lickers, start an argument rather than a rational civilised adult debate.

[Spray_resistant]

You need someone with power, good defense, solid chin and an aggressive style to push him back force him to fight at a fast pace he doesn't like to fight at and not allow him to maintain distance.

The only such HW who fits that description is big bro.

[Sweet Jesus]

Height, reach, power.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Alright, so apart from Byrd........... The rest? As the TS says, we are not trying to knock Wlad, only trying to discuss what tactics can possibly beat him but yet again, Klit lickers, start an argument rather than a rational civilised adult debate.

Here is what you pseudo Klitschko haters don't get... When you start a debate with "How can someone beat Wlad, we know he has been fighting ****ty competition, but..." Don't expect his fans not to take issue with that crap, to say his competition is **** is another way to say he is ****... so don't play dumb here. Most of you Klit haters were a lot more vocal a couple of years ago, their wins have made you tone it down, but don't play dumb...that was not a un-biased question from the TS, at least it wasn't worded like that.

[Trigg]

You need to be able to play golf

[J.R]

Here is what you pseudo Klitschko haters don't get... When you start a debate with "How can someone beat Wlad, we know he has been fighting ****ty competition, but..." Don't expect his fans not to take issue with that crap, to say his competition is **** is another way to say he is ****... so don't play dumb here. Most of you Klit haters were a lot more vocal a couple of years ago, their wins have made you tone it down, but don't play dumb...that was not a un-biased question from the TS, at least it wasn't worded like that.

I'm not a Klit hater, I actually respect Wlad, and his dominance of opponents, the mere fact that you jump on the accusation we degrade his opposition to me, screams, guilt and paranoia.

We can't deny that Wlad and Vitali have dominated 90% of their opponents, but on the other hand to be fair, YOU can't deny the fact that their opponents have been lacklustre in comparison to other heavyweight generations............. Fair to say? Or not?.........................