Pacquiao should fight Berto

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  • jri9d0
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    #11
    Originally posted by Biolink
    I agree.

    I don't understand the argument that he has to prove himself either. I mean regardless of how he looks against Cotto, or Mosley if he isn't ready now, he wouldn't be ready ever. If he wants to fight the best in the world nobody should stop him. So what he wants a big pay day. Everyone wants to get paid at the championship level. Can't criticize someone for wanting to fight the best, regardless of intention.
    I totally agree, however his last post fight interview he hinted in not being ready for Pac when he mentioned the order in how he would fight before Pac i.e. Cotto first, Mosley and then Manny.

    That doesn’t seem like a dude who’s sure of himself, but otherwise you are right on point homey.

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    • CarlosG815
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Mighty FSM
      Agreed. It is a better fight than Mosley and Marquez. Plus it will be exciting as well.
      Mosley would knock Berto out. How convenient for Berto to leave the country before his bout with Shane Mosley, and has yet to fight him since returning... hmmm, what a coincidence.

      Mosley would knock Berto out at anytime this year, and will be a much tougher fight for Manny.

      Berto/Manny wouldn't even be competitive.

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        #13
        Originally posted by CarlosG815
        Mosley would knock Berto out. How convenient for Berto to leave the country before his bout with Shane Mosley, and has yet to fight him since returning... hmmm, what a coincidence.

        Mosley would knock Berto out at anytime this year, and will be a much tougher fight for Manny.

        Berto/Manny wouldn't even be competitive.
        Mosley is a grandpa now. I would take Berto over him at this point.

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        • CarlosG815
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          #14
          Originally posted by The Mighty FSM
          Mosley is a grandpa now. I would take Berto over him at this point.
          "Mosley is a grandpa now" yet Manny nor Berto wants to fight him. There is no evidence to suggest that he is a grandpa or shot. He lost to the greatest fighter in the world in Floyd Mayweather, but was still able to fare better than a great prime fighter in Chico Corrales, who was made to look amateurish and knocked silly, stumbling around the ring. He then fought Mora, who came to hug and score points with pitter patter. He did not come to fight or win, he came to survive. To call him a grandpa based on those two fights is ignorant... Mosley keeps himself well conditioned and I believe his speed and power is still there. His stamina is the only thing that I question, as we all saw the speed against Mayweather in the second round. He was able to see an opening, and he had the speed to put together the best punch. Too bad Floyd doesn't make the same mistake twice.

          Roach made this mistake in the past when Manny fought Morales for the first time. Roach believed him to be shot, and while was on the slide and nowhere near his best, he was still able to beat Pacquiao because in all honesty, Pacquiao when compared to other ATG's, isn't the greatest. Mosley is a certain ATG and if Roach thinks this will be a walk in the park, then he is wrong again like he was when he chose to fight Morales.

          We will hear Manny make excuses like he did post Morales when Shane Mosley knocks him out or wins a clear unanimous decision.

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          • EL_cano
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            #15
            I always pondered how Berto vs. Mosley was going to play out. Both of them should fight and the winner takes Pacquiao.

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              #16
              Originally posted by CarlosG815
              I agree. Berto is not even close to Manny's level. He is a prime example of a wonderfully managed fighter who has a phenomenal matchmaker. The fact that he is on the undercard of JMM fighting a guy like Freddy Hernandez making 975K is proof of this.

              The truth is, he is not a top tier fighter, regardless of rank and holding of a belt. Manny would turn him into a 2 second Haitian ham sandwich.

              Manny is on a level of elite fighters, Berto is not. If he is, he has not proven it, and I have not seen any evidence on film that he is the "real deal."

              Fighting Pacquiao is career suicide for him. He needs to just enjoy beating up bums for near $1 million a pop and when he's read to hang em up and take a loss, then fight Manny.
              You are a fucking idiot. Holy crap, that was impressive.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ƒallenloki
                You are a fucking idiot. Holy crap, that was impressive.
                I'm not going to debate with somebody who has been watching boxing for 2 years and has no clue what he's talking about. State a case or STFU.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by EL_cano
                  I always pondered how Berto vs. Mosley was going to play out. Both of them should fight and the winner takes Pacquiao.
                  It would be Pacquiao/Hatton all over again.

                  Berto doesn't have speed or stamina. Pacquiao has an over abundance of both. He has no trouble with Berto whatsoever.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by CarlosG815
                    "Mosley is a grandpa now" yet Manny nor Berto wants to fight him.
                    Mosley is the front runner to fight Manny.

                    Originally posted by CarlosG815
                    There is no evidence to suggest that he is a grandpa or shot. He lost to the greatest fighter in the world in Floyd Mayweather, but was still able to fare better than a great prime fighter in Chico Corrales, who was made to look amateurish and knocked silly, stumbling around the ring.
                    He hit the greatest fighter in the world with a big shot and then started gasping for air, as if somebody was strangling him for hitting Floyd. I think the age was strangling him. It was not just that he lost, it was the way he got beat around after round 2.


                    Originally posted by CarlosG815
                    Mosley keeps himself well conditioned and I believe his speed and power is still there. His stamina is the only thing that I question, as we all saw the speed against Mayweather in the second round.
                    First you say that he is well conditioned and then you say he has stamina issues in the next sentence. If he is so well conditioned then why does he have stamina issues? Yeah and we never saw any speed or power after the 2nd round. The man can't let the hands go anymore!

                    Originally posted by CarlosG815
                    He then fought Mora, who came to hug and score points with pitter patter. He did not come to fight or win, he came to survive. To call him a grandpa based on those two fights is ignorant... Mosley keeps himself well conditioned and I believe his speed and power is still there.
                    So? Who thought Mora was coming to brawl with Mosley? Mosley couldn't cut off the ring. Heck, even when he had Mora near the ropes he couldn't let the hands go. The man can't throw anymore.

                    Originally posted by CarlosG815
                    We will hear Manny make excuses like he did post Morales when Shane Mosley knocks him out or wins a clear unanimous decision.
                    Mosley win a clear unanimous decision over Manny right now? That tells me you can't be taken seriously

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                    • sapak
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Morales.
                      1. Berto is the WBC titlist

                      2. Berto is the highest ranked avaliable welterweight

                      3. Berto number 3 by the ring, If pac beats him then he will be the ring WW champ. Giving him a 5th lineal title.

                      4. Berto is young

                      5. Berto is prime

                      6. Berto is undefeated.

                      7. Mosley is shot.

                      8. Marquez is too small for a welterweight fight and Pacquiao isnt going down to lightweight.
                      completely agree.

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