Originally posted by DLT
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I heard about it, but like i said in a previous post, Mayweather was stinking out fights at that stage, he was on TV in the UK a few times before the offer and people didnt want to know. I remember when he fought Sosa, even real fight fans were changing the channel because he was stinking the fight out against an average opponent.Originally posted by Martin.I dunno man... I'm a pretty big Hatton fan, I've seen his last 20-25 fights LIVE on the tv, (I also saw him LIVE once and I met him at another fight night when he wasn't fighting). I follow his career closely.
I've never heard of this offer made to Hatton.
I'm not saying you're wrong... I just don't remember this offer ever being made, (And I've been reading the Hatton forums for years!).
It just sounds more like Mayweather talk to me.
So he had no belt for Hatton, even if Hatton won he'd be beating a naturally smaller opponent and there was no serious money involved. A clever camp like Hattons wont put it all on the line for nothing, that would be daft.Last edited by - Evil -; 08-24-2005, 11:43 AM.Comment
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Well if this fight never ever happens no one can say that Mayweather never tried to make it happen.Comment
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So when was this?... Floyd was last fighting at 135lbs back in 2003'.Originally posted by - Evil -I heard about it, but like i said in a previous post, Mayweather was stinking out fights at that stage, he was on TV in the UK a few times before the offer and people didnt want to know. I remember when he fought Sosa, even real fight fans were changing the channel because he was stinking the fight out against an average opponent.
So he had no belt for Hatton, even if Hatton won he'd be beating a naturally smaller opponent and there was no serious money involved. A clever camp like Hattons wont put it all on the line for nothing, that would be daft.
What angle do you think the Mayweather camp were looking at it from?
1. This young Hatton guy is **** hot, and he's gonna become the World champ - Let's get him out of the way as quick as possible whilst he's still a bit green.
2. Perhaps the Mayweather camp just didn't know what they were dealing with back then?.. And were lucky they didn't make that Mayweathers 1st fight at 140lbs?
3. The Mayweather camp were just making an empty offer to see if this Hatton kid was serious or not?Comment
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Its a lot of everything, they were just pressing buttons to see what happens i think.Originally posted by Martin.So when was this?... Floyd was last fighting at 135lbs back in 2003'.
What angle do you think the Mayweather camp were looking at it from?
1. This young Hatton guy is **** hot, and he's gonna become the World champ - Let's get him out of the way as quick as possible whilst he's still a bit green.
2. Perhaps the Mayweather camp just didn't know what they were dealing with back then?.. And were lucky they didn't make that Mayweathers 1st fight at 140lbs?
3. The Mayweather camp were just making an empty offer to see if this Hatton kid was serious or not?
I dont know what these people are thinking but in my mind you build fights up to be huge showdowns. Like when everyone was saying Hatton should fight Cotto, back then i would have been a fight with little money in it, but now it a real good match up with two world champions. Mayweather business tactics seem pretty dumb, he knows how to play fighters by bad mouthing, but not the puplic, he just speak **** to get short term fans and doesnt help build up the fights, he'll never make as much money as he should be doing.Comment
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That's very true... I think he tried to play the nice guy and be like De La Hoya but it just never worked. People still didn't come to his fights, and people still didn't watch him on tv.Originally posted by - Evil -Its a lot of everything, they were just pressing buttons to see what happens i think.
I dont know what these people are thinking but in my mind you build fights up to be huge showdowns. Like when everyone was saying Hatton should fight Cotto, back then i would have been a fight with little money in it, but now it a real good match up with two world champions. Mayweather business tactics seem pretty dumb, he knows how to play fighters by bad mouthing, but not the puplic, he just speak **** to get short term fans and doesnt help build up the fights, he'll never make as much money as he should be doing.
So he changed (around the two Castillo fights time), and decided to try the James Toney route instead... Well At least he's getting somewhere now (Still not very well but 2,000-3,000 seats is better than 500 seats), he's still NOWHERE NEAR what he should be earning.
The thing is... Oscar De La Hoya, Ricky Hatton, Lennox Lewis etc are all multi millionaires... James Toney, Vivian Harris, Mike Tyson have all signed for bankrupcy recently.
Mayweather should learn from that, that people don't like arseholes... Like you said, "he just speak **** to get short term fans", But that's not enough!Comment
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No man it wasnt like no timetable crap. They actually said they wanted a few fights or 2 in between and they would not fight him in his next fight. They even said mid to late 2006Originally posted by - Evil -I heard Hatton turned him down then, which i can understand, at that stage Mayweather was considered a boring fighter who couldnt sell tickets or get PPV, he didnt have a belt(at 140) either. There no way Hatton would risk fighting someone as good as Mayweather for no money or no title, even if he murdered him people would just say Mayweather was too small for 140.
You do realise we are in August, theres just over 3months to make the fight and for the fighters to go to camp. There no way the fight could happen in 2005, its just smart to fight in 2006, thats all Hatton camp are saying. Mayweathers camp just suggested a dumb timescale for the fight.
The important thing now is, Hatton is the champ and Mayweather has more a lot respect then when he first moved to 140, they could easily sit down and work out a deal.Comment
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Originally posted by DLTNo, the WBC said when Floyd was at 135 that he wanted to fight Hatton in his 1st fight at 140 and Hatton turned him down and I believe that because Hatton was fighting all bums at the time. Also since the Gatti fight I have read plenty of interviews with Hattons managment and trainers and they all say they want Mayweather but not now. They all say it will be a bigger fight next year and stuff like that so I do believe he has again turned Floyd down. I dont believe Hatton would jump straight from Tszyu to Floyd. He wants a easy fight or 2 in between.
I dont know if I believe him about Zab but I do believe him about Hatton because I have heard Hatton's people say it
Yep i think with zab hes just trying to piss zab off to get isnide his head so when they do fight zab will try to take his head off cause hes so emotional, and mayweather can use that to his advantage, and it might be to where zab will say "**** it ill fight him for free or fight him at less than 50-50" so that way the fight will happen and floyd can get the money he wants.
with hatton come one people hatton i a ****ing *****, all you need to look at is the fact that he wouldnt even come here to fight the guy who was recognized as the champ (tszyu). he had to have even that fight at his own home. hes also had 39 fights and one good win. hes got more ights than judah and floyd and he has one win to show for it when zab has 9 good wins and floyd has 11 with less fights. hattons people called out maussa right after the harris fight, anyone who considers fighting maussa as a good fight is a joke and deserves to be killed. this guy doesnt even matter harris just needs to get right and take the belt back from him so he can get these fights.Comment
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