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  • Pullcounter
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    #21
    Originally posted by bojangles1987
    Ward is plenty capable of boxing outside like Dirrell did, and has done so plenty of times.
    not in the super six

    He will have seen what Dirrell and Froch did, do the same thing
    if he's smart he will do this

    , and at the same time get in some rough play on a soft Abraham. He'll win just as easily as Froch did.
    if he tries to play it rough he will not win as easily as froch did.

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    • Pullcounter
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      #22
      Originally posted by Sweet Jesus
      Pullcounter, you really have no knowledge of this sport, huh?
      I got more boxing knowledge in my pinky than you do in your whole body.

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        #23
        Ward by brutal HEADBUTT.

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          #24
          Originally posted by starkiller
          Ward by brutal HEADBUTT.
          headbutts n elbows lol

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            #25
            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            you talk about primes and levels... when you gonna talk about styles???!!!

            the style to beat AA is a boxer-mover, not a hug-n-hitter.

            if ward doesn't box (and by box I mean use his legs, jab, and create distance) and stand in front of a heavy handed guy like AA, he is just giving AA opportunities to land that 1 punch KO.
            Its not all about styles, even though I disagree with Jacky alot he is right when he was talking about how good fighters beat fighters they are better than and the better fighters can impose their style on their opponents and win regardless of whether a certain style gives a specific fighter problems.

            Why didn't Harry Yorgey outbox Angulo huh? stylistically that is the way to go against Angulo but Yorgey was not good enough to impose his style and AA will be no trouble at all for Ward, Ward has all of the options and all of the advantages.

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            • bojangles1987
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              #26
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              not in the super six


              if he's smart he will do this



              if he tries to play it rough he will not win as easily as froch did.
              Not in the Super Six, but in a lot of his fights beforehand. He's played rough in the Super Six because it was the best strategy against his opponents. He will absolutely be smart and fight the same basic fight Dirrell and Froch did.

              He won't play rough often, but one thing we have found out about Abraham is that he is soft as sh**, so when Ward does use opportunities to get a little rough, it will shake Abraham up and make him too uncomfortable to do anything.

              It's damn near a guarantee Ward will mess Abraham up.

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              • FloydTBE
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                #27
                AA should just go all out attack from 1st bell

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Spray_resistant
                  Its not all about styles, even though I disagree with Jacky alot he is right when he was talking about how good fighters beat fighters they are better than and the better fighters can impose their style on their opponents and win regardless of whether a certain style gives a specific fighter problems.

                  Why didn't Harry Yorgey outbox Angulo huh? stylistically that is the way to go against Angulo but Yorgey was not good enough to impose his style and AA will be no trouble at all for Ward, Ward has all of the options and all of the advantages.
                  look, we all agree that ward > abraham and that ward is the favorite to win. I don't dispute none of that.

                  I'm saying stylisticially, ward needs to switch up his game for AA or he'll have a tougher fight than or just as tough a fight as bika.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Pullcounter
                    look, we all agree that ward > abraham and that ward is the favorite to win. I don't dispute none of that.

                    I'm saying stylisticially, ward needs to switch up his game for AA or he'll have a tougher fight than or just as tough a fight as bika.
                    I would agree that an outside attack blue print is smarter, he has done it before, and can easily replicate what Froch and Dirrell did. Can Ward still win on the inside? I think so to but if he fights the way he did Bika he gives AA a slight punchers chance to win.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      Not in the Super Six, but in a lot of his fights beforehand. He's played rough in the Super Six because it was the best strategy against his opponents.
                      wasn't the best strategy for bika. bute and calzaghe already had the blueprint for that and beat bika easily, but ward just fought the same old hold-n-hit style.

                      He will absolutely be smart and fight the same basic fight Dirrell and Froch did.
                      I'm not saying he can't, I'm just skeptical that he will. he has been using the hold-n-hit style as a crutch all throughout the super six.
                      He won't play rough often, but one thing we have found out about Abraham is that he is soft as sh**, so when Ward does use opportunities to get a little rough, it will shake Abraham up and make him too uncomfortable to do anything.
                      AA can roughhouse when he gets frustrated. AA is not soft as *****, he just has no boxing iq. Ward roughhousing with AA is a bad idea imho cause AA probably hits harder than Ward.

                      It's damn near a guarantee Ward will mess Abraham up.
                      I'm not saying he won't. I'm just saying Ward might have a harder time that everything thinks.

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