Is Williams ever fighting at MW again?

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  • Phenom
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    Is Williams ever fighting at MW again?

    you think we will see williams at MW or will he just stick around 154?


    there is a nice fight that could be made at MW in Williams vs Pirog has the potentials to be FOTY if it happens in 2011. I personally think Pirog would win but still its a nice match up for HBO
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    #2
    i think he is droppin to 154, Williams didnt even ant Cintron rematch at 154 so I really doubt he wants to fight at middleweight

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    • Phenom
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      #3
      I cant really think of a good fight for him at 154 other then Maybe Cotto and obviously thats not happening

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      • jrosales13
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        #4
        He should not,

        just go down to 154 and fight Spinks as a comeback opponent.

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        • ny123
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          #5
          If Pavlik ever comes back him and Williams would still do good business and would be a great fight.

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #6
            He shouldn't unless he can learn how to fight tall.

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              #7
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              He shouldn't unless he can learn how to fight tall.
              he doesn't need to change his style he needs to fight smarter and learn to keep his hands up


              he needs a better trainer imo

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              • bushleaguer666
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                Why is everyone and their mom coming out of the woodwork with the notion that Paul Williams needs to learn how to fight tall, or get some defense, or get a new trainer, etc. For as long as Williams has been in the spotlight all I've heard is that he's the most feared man in boxing. I personally never thought he was all that great, decent handspeed, porous defense, average power, great workrate, but average fighter that just happened to be freakishly tall. I never saw him as a threat to the truly elite, but a good boxer nonetheless. In the first fight with Martinez, williams got the nod, and hit Sergio quite a bit. I have not heard too much concerning Sergio's lack of fundamental defense, but for a guy that needs a new trainer, needs to learn to fight tall, needs better defense etc(Williams) he landed quite a few shots on Martinez and avoided enough of his to get the decision. Now, in the second fight williams got rocked. It was a great shot and it did come as a result of him having his hand down when throwing one of his sloppy hooks, but watch closely and you will see that Martinez also threw a hook of his own and also had his other hand down. If Williams had a shorter, sharper hook we could just as easily be having this conversation about Sergio. Fact of the matter is Williams got caught, and he will always be what he is, a good boxer with weaknesses that can be exploited by the right opponent. As far as Sergio, i think its the same, he is a good fighter with many flaws as well. i dont think either would fare too well with the likes of a Pacquiao or Mayweather. Just my opinion

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                • Phenom
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bushleaguer666
                  Why is everyone and their mom coming out of the woodwork with the notion that Paul Williams needs to learn how to fight tall, or get some defense, or get a new trainer, etc. For as long as Williams has been in the spotlight all I've heard is that he's the most feared man in boxing. I personally never thought he was all that great, decent handspeed, porous defense, average power, great workrate, but average fighter that just happened to be freakishly tall. I never saw him as a threat to the truly elite, but a good boxer nonetheless. In the first fight with Martinez, williams got the nod, and hit Sergio quite a bit. I have not heard too much concerning Sergio's lack of fundamental defense, but for a guy that needs a new trainer, needs to learn to fight tall, needs better defense etc(Williams) he landed quite a few shots on Martinez and avoided enough of his to get the decision. Now, in the second fight williams got rocked. It was a great shot and it did come as a result of him having his hand down when throwing one of his sloppy hooks, but watch closely and you will see that Martinez also threw a hook of his own and also had his other hand down. If Williams had a shorter, sharper hook we could just as easily be having this conversation about Sergio. Fact of the matter is Williams got caught, and he will always be what he is, a good boxer with weaknesses that can be exploited by the right opponent. As far as Sergio, i think its the same, he is a good fighter with many flaws as well. i dont think either would fare too well with the likes of a Pacquiao or Mayweather. Just my opinion
                  he didn't really progress as well as he should have and even before Nov.20 I felt Williams needed better people in his corner and I feel the same about Devon Alexander. you see minor flaws in their style that an elite boxer would expose

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                  • bushleaguer666
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Phenom
                    he didn't really progress as well as he should have and even before Nov.20 I felt Williams needed better people in his corner and I feel the same about Devon Alexander. you see minor flaws in their style that an elite boxer would expose
                    Sorry, didnt mean to get on you. Its just there are a million people coming out of the woodwork with the monday morning quarterbacking.

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