Valuev and Donald in Eliminator

[badblood]

I have seen many Valuev fights and many Donald fights. Donald will eaither lay down and take the loss, or die. Valuev wins this fight with ease. I'll put up 10 mil points for this fight, any takers??

[neils7147933]

I dont recall calling him a great fighter or saying he'd ever be,,,but you saying "anyone can outbox him" is laughable. he is big time untested but did easily kayo entienne and levin who are far from world beaters but were ranked in the top 30 at at least one point in there careers. Id favor him over ruiz any day. hes never been off his feet in 41 fights

He knocked out Etienne with a rabbit punch. Attila Levin lost to Jeremy Williams before fighting Valuev.

Ruiz wouldn't KO Valuev but that doesn't mean much. Byrd probably wouldn't even stun the big ogre but could beat him 120-108

[TheFairPole]

I think Valuev will have an easy time with Donald and Ruiz. He is just so big and has good stamina! If he doesn't run out of gas then he is gonna be hard to beat!

[Nautilus]

I've seen Valuev fights vs. Dominguez, Nobles, Levin, Etienne, Tisdale; I'm still waiting to be impressed.

Anyone that can box can win every round against this guy...

1. Wasn't Domingues a WBC cruiser champ? He was short, but he surely could box.

2. Valuev also outboxed Vidoz who was an Olympic silver medalist.

[Nautilus]

He knocked out Etienne with a rabbit punch. Attila Levin lost to Jeremy Williams before fighting Valuev.

Ruiz wouldn't KO Valuev but that doesn't mean much. Byrd probably wouldn't even stun the big ogre but could beat him 120-108

1. Yes, but he KDed him twice, and the rabit punch that casued second KD was not intentional (Etiene was turning his head)

2. Levin's loss to Williams was due to a cut caused by an (what I think was) intentional headbutt, and they went on par otherwise...

[badblood]

Valuev will never catch a break from some of these boxing fans. When he beats Donald, everyone is going to say, oh he beat Donald who cares, he still sucks. When Valuev beats Ruiz everyone is going to say, oh it's just Ruiz. Some fight fans have a brick wall in their mind that will never broken no matter who Valuev fights. But I say this now, Valuev will clean out the HW division, he is the best kept secret right now in the division.

[neils7147933]

1. Wasn't Domingues a WBC cruiser champ? He was short, but he surely could box.

2. Valuev also outboxed Vidoz who was an Olympic silver medalist.

I uploaded that Dominguez fight for you awhile back, remember?. That guy was a cruiserweight like I was a few months back...(smilie)

[neils7147933]

Valuev will never catch a break from some of these boxing fans. When he beats Donald, everyone is going to say, oh he beat Donald who cares, he still sucks. When Valuev beats Ruiz everyone is going to say, oh it's just Ruiz. Some fight fans have a brick wall in their mind that will never broken no matter who Valuev fights. But I say this now, Valuev will clean out the HW division, he is the best kept secret right now in the division.

I bet you had high hopes for Gheorghe Muresan in the NBA too...

[badblood]

I bet you had high hopes for Gheorghe Muresan in the NBA too...

That guy was garbage, but untill someone comes along and beats Valuev, he's undefeated, and the highest ranking fighter for Ruiz's belt.

[neils7147933]

That guy was garbage, but untill someone comes along and beats Valuev, he's undefeated, and the highest ranking fighter for Ruiz's belt.

Valuev should have been DQ'd against Etienne and, before, against Nobles.

We don't KO people to the back of their head in America. Valuev would have had an 'L' had those fights been held here...

That's also a possible predicted outcome for the fight vs. Ruiz - he got Kirk Johnson to DQ himself, too...

Valuev doesn't deserve a title shot. Even if he beats Larry Donald, who scored an impressive draw in his last outing, and before that, outboxed a brain-damaged Holyfield...