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  • Originally posted by Floyd R View Post
    It's interesting that the greatest athletes in sports outside of boxing happen to be under the sign of Aquarius. These athletes are remembered in the history books and viewed as innovators and the greatest of all time. Athletes under this sign typically have a quality about them that transcends sports which explains why they are admired, respected, and idolized even by people that do not follow sports.


    Here's a list of athletes born in the Aquarius sign:
    # Aaron, Hank (5 February)
    # Crouch, Peter (30 January)
    # De La Hoya, Oscar (4 February)
    # Eusebio (25 January)
    # Golovin, Tatiana (25 January)
    # Gretzky, Wayne (26 January)
    # Jordan, Michael (17 February)
    # Krzyzewski, Mike (13 February)
    # Papale, Vince (9 February)
    # Prefontaine, Steve (25 January)
    # Retton, Mary Lou (24 January)
    # Robinson, Jackie (31 January)
    # Ronaldo, Cristiano (5 February)
    # Rossi, Valentino (16 February)
    # Ruth, Babe (6 February)



    yup pisces and aquarians are great team players because they have the most accomodating personalities that would allow them to excel with a team. teammates would also pass them the ball because they will generally like them. they are very cohesive, optimistic and easy going people.




    Aries, Capricorns and Cancers are usually loners or leaders. Cardinal signs i guess.
    Last edited by Rassclot; 01-04-2011, 08:54 PM.

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    • Originally posted by [KLTP] -Kirby- View Post
      I'm a Cancer. My birthday is 9 days before Mike Tyson's birthday. Does that mean I have Mike Tyson like power? I know for a fact I'm fast though. Will I be the next Mike Tyson?
      have you been training everyday in your life to be a boxer?

      do you have other strong aspects like capricorn or saggitarian in your natal chart? specifically in your ascending and mars?

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      • Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
        Some of the old school ni*gas like Joe Louis, Jack Dempsey, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Ezzard Charles, etc have their birth times up.

        http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Main_Page

        http://www.astrotheme.com/

        I use those sites.


        wow cool thanks. i'm going to look up some people.

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        • Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
          hey thanks for that man.

          yeah keep observing the trends. i believe what i see i don't get caught up by naysayers.


          I was actually sitting down with my buddy recently and watching bernard and pascal. also pirog and jacobs. i called both of those fights.

          I saw that jacobs is one of the weakest sign in aquarius and pirog has one of the strongest sign in cancer and their resumes are pretty even. i took pirog by KO without even knowing who Pirog was lol.


          Also i took bernard by decision if he survives the scorpion sting in the first couple of rounds. bernard did get stung..... and he began walking pascal down. i saw the libra in mars for pascal and knew his stamina would be an issue late in the fight.
          LMAO @ the Pirog prediction.

          Why do you consider Cancer the most powerful water sign? I always attributed that to Scorpios. Maybe its just powerful emotions.

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          • Yo I havent heard anything from libra Sep 25.... Do I have something as a fighter??

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            • Originally posted by GrandpaBernard View Post
              Here's my observations:

              Aries - don't know too much about them and boxing. They seem to have this dance they're doing. Look at Jose Napoles and Joe Calzaghe for example.

              Taurus - this along with Capricorn are the greatest influences for boxing. Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Joe Louis, Floyd Mayweather, Muhammad Ali, etc all have some important **** in Taurus.

              Gemini - There's not many in the game, but the elite ones really love to fight. Harry Greb and Roberto Duran have their Suns here. Tyson has his Mars here.

              Cancer - the most useful water sign influence for boxing. These guys typically fight extremely aggressively and love to swarm. Dempsey, Tyson, etc had their Suns here.

              Leo - the Sun isn't that great at boxing, but the influence helps with confidence and courage. Ali has his ascendant here. Frazier has his Moon here. Yuri Foreman got up to continue with Cotto even after twisting his knee.

              Virgo - the influence either makes for slick mother****ers like Willie Pep (Sun and Moon), Nicolini Locche (Moon), Joe Gans (Moon), Wilfred Benitez (Sun and Moon), etc or hardcore sluggers Foreman (Ascendant), Shavers (Sun). They're some how able to get away with not training very hard, just look at Pep, Locche, and Benitez.

              Libra - I don't know too much about this influence in prizefighting. Only notable guy I can name off the top of my head is Thomas Hearns.

              Scorpio - We already had a conversation about them.

              Sagittarius - the greatest fire sign influence for this boxing ****. It helps with speed, agility, athleticism, explosiveness, and all that good ****. Sugar Ray Robinson and Leonard have their ascendants here, Mike Tyson has his Moon here, and Amir Khan has his Sun here.

              Capricorn - We already had a conversation about them. They haven't been as dominant in boxing in recent years for whatever the **** reason.


              Aquarius - Same issue as Leo, the Suns aren't very good at the very top level. Look no further than Oscar who lost all his big fights. The influence (Ascendant, Moon, Mercury, and Mars) can be extremely valuable. Aquarius is the sign about the future, science, and genius. Floyd Mayweather (Mercury and Mars), Muhammad Ali (Moon, Mercury), Ezzard Charles (Ascendant) are excellent ring generals.

              Pisces - don't know too much about them. Floyd Jr is the greatest Pisces Sun boxer, and Sugar Ray Robinson is the greatest Pisces Moon boxer in the history of the sport. The sign is known for its adaptability and versatility, being the last sign gives them pieces of each and every sign before. These two fighters know how to adapt.
              You can add Paul Spadafora to the list of "slick" Virgos. I lol'd at Virgos getting away with not training hard. James Toney is a Virgo; so is Erik Morales and so was Diego "Chico" Corrales (rip).

              A lot of Virgo fighters fight balls to the wall.

              Erik Morales, Chico, Toney, Julian Jackson, JMM, etc...

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              • Originally posted by Michael Hall View Post
                LMAO @ the Pirog prediction.

                Why do you consider Cancer the most powerful water sign? I always attributed that to Scorpios. Maybe its just powerful emotions.
                well let's list the ATG list of fighters with their sun in cancer and scorpio... off the top of my head....


                Dempsey (ATG)

                Mickey Walker (ATG)

                Sandy Saddler (ATG)

                Ezzard Charles (ATG)

                Julio Cesar Chavez (ATG)

                Jake Lamotta (ATG)

                Michael Spinks (ATG)

                Mike Tyson (HOF)


                Active:

                Vitali Klitschko

                Froch

                Canelo

                Juanma

                Chad Dawson

                Maidana



                Scorpio has........


                Larry Holmes (ATG)



                Active:

                Miguel Cotto

                Antonio Tarver

                David Tua

                Kermit Cintron





                ummmmmmmmmmmmmm.........
                another funny observation is that cancer beats scorpios h2h almost exclusively. Larry Holmes lost to Spinks X2 and Tyson. both Cancer.

                Cotto lost to Margarito (cancer moon and Mars), Pacquiao (Cancer moon)

                Tarver lost to Dawson X2

                Pascal however beat Dawson. but Froch beat Pascal.

                Cintron also lost to Margarito X2


                Cancers are just more powerful than scorpios by evidence. They have relentless pressure matched ridiculous emotional tidal wave of power and a hardshell to take punishment.


                Scorpio are a lesser extent to that. The scorpio influence gives punching power but they always seem to crack at the highest level.
                Last edited by Rassclot; 01-04-2011, 10:13 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Rassclot View Post
                  yup


                  Aquarians need to be 2 levels above their competition to shine.


                  ODLH (lost all of his biggest fights). he could've won the trinidad(capricorn) fight but quit in the later rounds.

                  Prince Naseem (quit first time he stepped up to world class, Barrera(Capricorn))

                  Victor Ortiz, despite being vastly more skilled than Maidana with all the right guidance from goldenboy got blasted out by Maidana(cancer) and straight up quit even though he could've won if he stuck to boxing.

                  Danny Jacobs, same thing. hyped up and got blasted by Pirog(cancer)
                  Explains why I was never high on Devon Alexander (Aqua). I think Tim Bradley (Virgo Sun/Taurus Moon) slaughters him when they meet.

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                  • Originally posted by Money Shot View Post
                    Pisces are lovers not fighters, but they do have it if pushed.
                    Sergio Martinez proved that.

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                    • Originally posted by Michael Hall View Post
                      Explains why I was never high on Devon Alexander (Aqua). I think Tim Bradley (Virgo Sun/Taurus Moon) slaughters him when they meet.
                      that is exactly why i have 100 bucks riding on that fight =)


                      Bradley should dominates him astrologically.

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