Astrology In Fighting... Interesting perspective

[Rassclot]

Are we SERIOUSLY discussing the attributes of professional fighters based on an arbitrary system of reading equally arbitrary qualities ascribed to arbitrary groups of stars!?

Muhammad Ali was born on January 17th so obviously this must be an au****ious day for boxers. Like this guy:

was he born in the same place and at the same time as ali?


just because he was born under the same sun sign doesn't mean he has the same everything else. it just might mean he is just as driven as ali because his sun aspect falls in the same category. he could be driven in his chosen field of work.

[Rassclot]

Because there's more to it than just astrology. Astrology is just one component out of many that deserve consideration. Other things to consider are GENETICS, SPIRITUALITY, AGE, IQ LEVEL, BACKGROUND, CULTURE, etc...

Astrology does not work like this "I'm a Capricorn and so was Ali, so I'm automatically the best ever".

This would be a little closer to how Astrology can work: "I hate being the center of attention, why is that?"

Asrology can help you understand yourself a little bit better, but it doesn't predetermine anything.

right on.


genetics and skills are still more important in a physical sport like fighting. however at the highest level when those aspects are filtered out somewhat then astrology is very important.

[Rassclot]

Aries is not the most powerful . neither is scorpio.... your ascendant sign will determine that as well as house placement of the sun and mars.. and both of their aspects.

Aries is the rawest aggression, being that its the first sign of the year.. spring equinox.... Scorpio is the more indrect and cunning version of mars. but neither are the most "powerful" signs.


Aquarius is in detriment , there are barely any great aquarian fighters but it terms of team sports they are great. Victor Ortiz is an Aquarius... they lack the inner will to withstand a lot of hardship...


the best fighters are earth signs by far... and feminine signs , dont mean geminine in the gender, sex sense it means more receptive than projecting.. Earth signs are down to earth... so naturally they can stick it out and stay on track for the long haul.

Cancer Asc put Aries on the 10th house/MC ..these are great fighters .


A Malefic aspect Saturn also can make someone hard working, and brutal feeling they have much to over come and needing a channel to use that energy.


Pisces Neptune is the martyr, As we seen with nate campell and chris Arreola... they are sensitive but dont mind going to hell and back in a fight only to lose... even though they lost they like the kudos given because of the punishment they toook.. Shannon briggs has mars in pisces.. very low vitality and and self assertion but another martyr aspect it also square his sun in sagittarius.

I believe Aries is generally accepted as the most powerful sign in the zodiac along with scorpio. both rulers of mars.


which sign do you consider the most powerful?

[Dawerlzgreatest]

traveler1 natal astrology is DNA you take elements of both parents in your chart.

Astrology is MUCH MUCH MUCCCCHHHH deeper than sun signs and you cant even grasp everything in a lifetime of study.

[Dawerlzgreatest]

squeel piggy unless he was born in the same year and same minute in the same hospital as ali then he will be much different.

[The Noose]

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Tarver mentally checked out in the first Eric Harding fight.

Not quitting. Ur bending the **** out of ur definitions and playing word games to fit ur beliefs.

His great power was magnified in the ROY JONES rematch.

It was one punch. Tarver only managed it once in 3 fights. Thats one punch in three fights.

He did quit against Pac. He stopped trying to win after round 9. He ran away from a smaller man because he had too much pride to get knocked out. That is another form of quitting (running away from your opponent nonstop)

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He didnt quit. The smaller man beat the ***** out of him. Stop making things up.

I didn't say ONLY Scorpions quit. Lets get that straight. I said a large number of Scorpios have quit in the ring and there is a PATTERN with that sign.

So Scorpios are extremely powerful, but also quit a lot??

More bs.

It's not just about a knockdowns and knockouts.

I'll give you some examples:

Remember the right hand that sent Lennox Lewis to the ground in South Africa?

That right hand came by way of a Scorpio, Hasim Rahman.

Who got KO'd in the rematch. McCall also KO'd Lewis and he is a Taurus.

Jean Pascal, Scorpio, was the first man to defeat Chad Dawson. Pascal was also the first fighter in over 15 years to put Bernard Hopkins on the canvas. Antonio Tarver, Scorpio, was the first man to KO Roy Jones.
Zab Judah, Scorpio, has given numerous fighters their first loss, first loss by KO and first knockdown (most notable was his ko of cory spinks and his unofficial knockdown of Mayweather).

Larry Holmes, Scorpio, was the first to expose Cooney.

The pattern is obvious.

Tyson, youngest heavyweight...Cancer
Tillis, 1st to go the distance with Tyson...Cancer
Lamotta...first to beat SSR....Cancer


tHE PATTERN IS OBVIOUS...ITS CANCER, not Scorpio!
Oh wait...
Sonny Banks...1st to put down Clay...Gemini.
Buster Douglas the 1st to stop Tyson was an Aries.
Holyfield...Libra...an Air sign....so wtf does that mean? Shouldnt he be Capricorn?

So Scorpions are the 1st to do stuff? Or are they just meant to be powerful? Or are they quitters? Or are u making stuff up?

U can find patterns anywhere if u twist and manipulate the data enough to bend towards ur bias.

[squealpiggy]

was he born in the same place and at the same time as ali?


just because he was born under the same sun sign doesn't mean he has the same everything else. it just might mean he is just as driven as ali because his sun aspect falls in the same category. he could be driven in his chosen field of work.

Oh right, then astrology is instantly right.

I love the excuses now: Oh well he was born in a different place.

Well what about the people who were born in the same place?

Oh well they were born at different times!

Well what about someone who was born at the same time and the same place?

Well this guy's mom was a different star sign...

IT IS BUNK!

[WILL2WIN]

i don't think anyone believes these theories of astronomy are 100% accurate or concrete facts,that's why there only theories man! But that doesn't make them any less interesting or fun to ponder over and debate upon!

LOL what if the Succubus really did get to Big George HAHA! You never know!

[Rassclot]

[QUOTE=The Noose;9903798]

Tyson, youngest heavyweight...Cancer
Tillis, 1st to go the distance with Tyson...Cancer
Lamotta...first to beat SSR....Cancer


tHE PATTERN IS OBVIOUS...ITS CANCER, not Scorpio!
Oh wait...
Sonny Banks...1st to put down Clay...Gemini.
Buster Douglas the 1st to stop Tyson was an Aries.
Holyfield...Libra...an Air sign....so wtf does that mean? Shouldnt he be Capricorn?

So Scorpions are the 1st to do stuff? Or are they just meant to be powerful? Or are they quitters? Or are u making stuff up?

U can find patterns anywhere if u twist and manipulate the data enough to bend towards ur bias.

yeah people tend to get mixed up when it comes to astrology.




they think OH LEO has the home in the sun that means Leos are the most powerful and best boxers ever? When you look through the ATG Leo list the best fighters they got are Ken Norton and Michael Grant.

Today we have Jermain Taylor and Paul Williams


All very promising before getting KTFO.



Then they think OMG Aries is the most powerful sign in the zodiac that must mean they are the best ever? Vlad klit, Buster Douglas, Arturo Gatti...... all known for being relentless but can be broken at any moment. Vlad is getting better because he's fighting on Manny Steward cruise control mode now. younger Vlad was getting Koed left and right.



Then they think OMG Scorpio is also a ruler of the mars. They must be tthe most powerful right? No and no.




All 3 signs are powerful yes but not necessarily in the boxing sense. Leo and Scorpio are very powerful speakers and dynamic leaders. the best promoter off all time = Don King and Dana White

Both Leo's. Look through famous Leos you will find dynamic leaders and very good public speakers. Johnny Cochrane is also a leo. they are the lions who bark the loudest but get pummelled when it comes down to a real fight.


Scorpios are more quiet in presence but very powerful in leadership and the scorpian aspect is also evil for the most part. which explains their success to an extent.



Aries are just hot heads. they are the most powerful sign with the shortest fuse. they are usually guys that snap and kill somebody. I wouldn't say to have Aries in your sun is a promising aspect for fighting as it makes people relentless.

[Rassclot]

Oh right, then astrology is instantly right.

I love the excuses now: Oh well he was born in a different place.

Well what about the people who were born in the same place?

Oh well they were born at different times!

Well what about someone who was born at the same time and the same place?

Well this guy's mom was a different star sign...

IT IS BUNK!

as i mentioned time and time again, genetics and skills are the most important factors in a fight. an athletic trained guy will beat an untrained guy with thee perfect chart.


it matters at the highest professional level when 2 athletes are seemingly at the same level. and it has been proven.


if astrology is just a random distribution then you should be able to list just as many ATG leo, aquarius, and scorpio fighters. i am giving you 3 signs not just one. this should be easy.

u can start listing them and we can compare your list to the Capricorn, Taurus and Cancer list.