No Way Any HARDCORE Boxing Fan Can Justify Pac Fighting Mosley or Marquez@ 147

[2501]

What exactly do you want to see?

Clottey was a virtually unknown fighter, but Arum found a way to sell him. There is no reason why he can't take an HBO fighter such as the winner of Bradley/Alexander, Berto or at least meet Marquez at 140 LBS.

Finally people start realizing the cherry picking on Pac teams

Even his own fans are starting to question him

Which is something you should start doing in regards to Floyd because homeboy is guilty of the same ****.

[jrosales13]

Of course it can't be justified two-five.

It would be very weak in Pac part if he fights either JMM at 140 or above or Shane.

[The_Demon]

Pac is in a tough spot he's going to get heat no matter who he fights next unless it's floyd.

Berto is unknown, never fought anyone good, is untested, and the PPV will probably suck.

Mosley is old, his last two fights are a loss and a draw "mayweathers leftovers".

Marquez is up there in age too and he would be well above his best weight class, "mayweathers leftovers".

Not sure what I would do if I were in Pac's shoes either.

Exactly,mayweather doesnt want the fight so what can he do,if he doesnt stay active then he will retire imo

[ny123]

Of course it can't be justified two-five.

It would be very weak in Pac part if he fights either JMM at 140 or above or Shane.

Marquez at 140 might be somewhat acceptable but i dont like either fight.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

IHe wanted Marquez @ 147 initially because he know it was incredibly detrimental to Marquez to fight at that weight.

No, he wanted a tune-up opponent who was also reasonably sellable for a gate/PPV/24-7. A great little man with a name like Marquez was the perfect option, much better than a merely good guy around his own size who wouldn't attract any gate/PPV interest. Of course Floyd was never going to stress himself to move down in weight for Marquez, that was never a question.

I know you struggle to deal with this, but that was a tune-up fight for Floyd. A glorified tune-up, but a tune-up nonetheless.


Pacquiao-Marquez at 147 is a disgrace, though, moreso because the two have a history together. To make Marquez fight the third match in such unfair circumstances would be highly injurious to that history and to the integrity of the series.



Fighting Mosley at 147 is much fairer than fighting Marquez at that weight.

If Pacquiao fights Mosley, so be it. Who did Mosley lose to again? So he got frustrated by slippery, naturally bigger Mora...so what?

[p4p-champ]

oscar wasnt weight drained, cotto wasnt either, hatton wasnt done after the floyd fight and so isnt margarito. Either of these guys can and will still be able to put the beating down. Its just that pac dominated them in a way that nobody ever did so everyone that doesnt like pac is quick to use excuses about them being old or weight drained.

quit being in denial man. Oscar was a zombie a fuckin zombie and even Roach admitted the guy was weight drained and dehydrated. The dude has an IV for fucks sakes.

Cotto was a;ready damaged goods despite only being asked to drop a couple pounds.

Hatton, is just Hatton, nothing to say there. The guy just sucks.

Margarito? Clottley? lmao. ooooh, they're so big, strong and slow. One of them has no defense and the other has nothing but defence.

Common, give it a rest. its all smoke and mirrors, Arum is a good match maker and the media drives up the hype.

[2501]

No, he wanted a tune-up opponent who was also reasonably sellable for a gate/PPV/24-7. A great little man with a name like Marquez was the perfect option, much better than a merely good guy around his own size who wouldn't attract any gate/PPV interest. Of course Floyd was never going to stress himself to move down in weight for Marquez, that was never a question.

I know you struggle to deal with this, but that was a tune-up fight for Floyd. A glorified tune-up, but a tune-up nonetheless.


Pacquiao-Marquez at 147 is a disgrace, though, moreso because the two have a history together. To make Marquez fight the third match in such unfair circumstances would be highly injurious to that history and to the integrity of the series.



Fighting Mosley at 147 is much fairer than fighting Marquez at that weight.

If Pacquiao fights Mosley, so be it. Who did Mosley lose to again? So he got frustrated by slippery, naturally bigger Mora...so what?

It was a disgrace because it was marketed as a credible COMPETITIVE fight to the casual fans. The fight was called Numero Uno, Numero Dos for Christ's sake. So there is nothing to "struggle about" when giving an opinion about this fight. It was a disgrace up and down, left and right.

[Khalid X]

Pac is in a tough spot he's going to get heat no matter who he fights next unless it's floyd.

Berto is unknown, never fought anyone good, is untested, and the PPV will probably suck.

Mosley is old, his last two fights are a loss and a draw "mayweathers leftovers".

Marquez is up there in age too and he would be well above his best weight class, "mayweathers leftovers".

Not sure what I would do if I were in Pac's shoes either.

This^^^^

I don't wanna see any of those fights, and all three are complete **** IMO.

In a perfect world I would have prefered Berto and Mosley face off and Manny face the winner, or Marquez beat a top guy at 140 and then face Manny.

The only thing I can think of is if Bradley completely dominates Alexander....making him a perfect candidate to face Manny.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

I love how TS routinely appoints himself the rule-maker for what HARDCORE fans can and can't do.


Such a pretentious punk. He's about as hardcore as the lead singer from Maroon 5.

It was a disgrace because it was marketed as a credible COMPETITIVE fight to the casual fans. The fight was called Numero Uno, Numero Dos for Christ's sake. So there is nothing to "struggle about" when giving an opinion about this fight. It was a disgrace up and down, left and right.

You're missing the point. That fight was what it was. Floyd didn't bring Marquez up to weaken him per se, because, beyond surface appearances, the fight was never intended to be anything more than a work-out for Floyd in the first place. Marquez was pulled up from the lower divisions for his name, his sellability.


Now Pacquiao vs. Marquez, a lot more rides on that fight.



Pacquiao-Shane at 147 is just fine. If Shane wants it.

[Khalid X]

quit being in denial man. Oscar was a zombie a fuckin zombie and even Roach admitted the guy was weight drained and dehydrated. The dude has an IV for fucks sakes.

Cotto was a;ready damaged goods despite only being asked to drop a couple pounds.

Hatton, is just Hatton, nothing to say there. The guy just sucks.

Margarito? Clottley? lmao. ooooh, they're so big, strong and slow. One of them has no defense and the other has nothing but defence.

Common, give it a rest. its all smoke and mirrors, Arum is a good match maker and the media drives up the hype.

DLH was drained but that's not Manny's fault or problem.

Cotto was a legit fighter as was Hatton, and Clottey. All those fights with Floyd and Manny proved was how much better those two were than everyone else.

Why is boxing the only sport that whenever a elite athlete dominates another guy we say that guy who lost sucks/shot/past his prime.

When Jordan destroyed opponents...it was never a diss to those guys but a testimate to MJ's greatness.

Same with guys like Bolt, Phelps, Federor, Ovetchkin, and other athletes that dominate their sport. Every other sport praises these guys and just realizes they are that much better.....but boxing is so b1tch made we rip our stars by discrediting their achievements...and act like those suffering defeats are bums or whatever b.s. term you wanna throw out there.