Dayum Ward and Berto mixing up the P4P list again

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  • Nobuhiro Sugoi
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    Dayum Ward and Berto mixing up the P4P list again

    So last week we had Martinez shock everyone with that lucky shot on Williams placing him in the P4P rankings, now after last night Ward def made his case and Berto on the horizon with that easy KO of a tough fighter....so def someday will get there.

    Im just not sure where to put Ward on the P4P?
  • ..WaRSpencE..
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    Not top 10 yet...

    Mikkel Kessler is the only guy he beat who's really worth mentioning, Green, Miranda, and Bika are B- level at best.

    Andre Berto's win was impressive, but can't help but look back at the Collazo victory and him not giving Collazo an immediate rematch, Berto needs to get a Mosley, Cotto, or atleast a Clottey in his resume before being considered a top 10 himself

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    • daggum
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      Originally posted by No Floors
      So last week we had Martinez shock everyone with that lucky shot on Williams placing him in the P4P rankings, now after last night Ward def made his case and Berto on the horizon with that easy KO of a tough fighter....so def someday will get there.

      Im just not sure where to put Ward on the P4P?
      tough fighter? he was on the verge of being ko'd by margarito tuneup victim roberto garcia when he quit because of a tiny cut.

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      • DarchinyFAN
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        #4
        P4P top 10 is in flux with a lot of the old guard retiring or losing, but neither of these guys crack it yet.

        Ward is a lot closer than Berto.

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        • bojangles1987
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          Berto does not deserve to be mentioned in the p4p top 20.

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          • BoxerDood
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            Ward is two fights away from earning a spot. Wins over Abraham and the Froch-Johnson winner will definitely put him on there. I can see him beating Froch or Johnson, but I can't see him lasting the distance against Arthur Abraham. I think he'd get stopped eventually. But if he comes out of this tournament undefeated, then he's certainly one of the best fighters in the world right now. However wins over Bika, Green, a shot Miranda and Kessler are not enough. Kessler is the only A class fighter of the four.

            Berto isn't even close. He'll need to beat at least two elite WW boxers like Cotto and Mosley. Not only does he need to beat them, but he needs to beat them impressively. Freddy Hernandez is a bum. I can name a few C class WWs who would decision him. Squeaking by Collazo and looking like crap against a shot Quintana isn't exactly p4p material either. Guys like Khan (after next Saturday, assuming he wins) and Bradley (after the Alexander fight, assuming he wins) have made a better case than him.

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