If Pac-JMM 3 is held @ 147 lbs should JMM come in under 140?

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  • Hitman932
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    If Pac-JMM 3 is held @ 147 lbs should JMM come in under 140?

    We have watched now as Antonio Margarito, Paul Williams and Celestino Caballero have been completely dismantled by smaller, faster, more precise opponents.

    In the case of Pacquiao he weighed in for the Margarito bout at 144.5 lbs despite it being contested at 150 lbs.

    He looked great at the weight, plenty of strength, and most importantly confident in his conditioning and ability to fight at an intense pace.

    We also watched JMM slug through a 147 lb fight against Mayweather looking like he had sand in his boots only to turn around and fight at 135 and look like the same exciting p4p fighter that fans have long come to appreciate.

    Also, for clarification JMM was ineffective weighing 142 against Mayweather. So essentially it was 7 lbs that really had a negative effect, not the full 12 lb difference between the divisions.

    Now before you respond telling me that "yeah idiot of course he looked better against no defense Katsidis.. he's no Mayweather pwn pwn" please take into account that I know that as well as you do.

    So here is my question, and please vote:

    If you were managing or training JMM and you land the fight against Pacquiao and it is contracted at 147, what will you aim for your target weight to be come fight time?

    A couple things to consider before rushing to vote:

    1) You know that Pac wasn't even a full welterweight against Marg, so he will likely come into a fight @ 147 against JMM at around 143-144 anyway.

    2) JMM has never fought and won above 135, and his last fight against Pac was at 130.

    3) Even fighting at 135 JMM has not used the full weight. His last 2 fights he weighed in at 133.5 and 134, so clearly he does not see the benefit of even fighting at the limit at the lower weight...

    Poll coming.........
    25
    133-135 The Same Weight He looked so good at against Katsidis and Diaz
    8.00%
    2
    136-140 Use a couple extra lbs, but only up to a point
    56.00%
    14
    141-143 Basically the same weight he was for Mayweather
    32.00%
    8
    144 up to a full 147... Try to be heavier than Pac
    4.00%
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  • Khalid X
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    #2
    fight happens....Marquez will be 145 fight night and Manny 148.

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    • Bastian Loc
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      #3
      I would have him come in at 135. He'll then rehydrate to about 145.

      Pac will come in at 144 and rehydrate to about 147-8.

      The weight won't make a difference, the skills of marquez will win him the fight again.

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      • Hitman932
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        #4
        Originally posted by -Top Rank-
        fight happens....Marquez will be 145 fight night and Manny 148.
        Let's talk weigh in numbers... not fight night weight.

        Just for the sake of comparing apples to apples.

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          #5
          Originally posted by INJECT
          I would have him come in at 135. He'll then rehydrate to about 145.

          Pac will come in at 144 and rehydrate to about 147-8.

          The weight won't make a difference, the skills of marquez will win him the fight again.

          I think he should come in around 138, but if anything he should be less and not more.

          He just looked terrible at 142. I would not think it a bad indicator if he weighed in at 135 and Pac at 145. He should fight at the weight he has proven to be effective.

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          • Hi-Dro
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            #6
            He should come in somewhere between 140 and 147.

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            • Toney Loc
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              #7
              Originally posted by Hitman932
              Let's talk weigh in numbers... not fight night weight.

              Just for the sake of comparing apples to apples.
              I don't think Marquez carries the weight all that well. But then again, the only time he fought over 140 lbs, it was against Floyd Mayweather.

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              • OpaiSoma
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                #8
                Originally posted by Hitman932
                Let's talk weigh in numbers... not fight night weight.

                Just for the sake of comparing apples to apples.
                So you dont want both fighters at their best?

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                • Russian Crushin
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                  #9
                  Well JMM weighed in at 142 against Floyd when the contract was 144

                  So that must be his normal weight

                  Pac weighed in at 144 aganist Marg when the contact was 150

                  So they look to be 2 pounds apart there

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                  • FloydTBE
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                    #10
                    just hope it gets made

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