Pacquiao's win against Margarito means nothing

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    #41
    Originally posted by Phil Ivey
    You act like Marg being in tip top shape actually means something.. it doesn't. The only benefit it brings is him being able to withstand getting punched in the face for 12 rounds. Marg wasn't weight drained during Shane Mosley.. it wouldn't have made an inch of a difference.. style makes fights. Margarito is a bum, Clottey dangerous? BAHAHAHAHAHAHA good joke man - you know why he's having trouble finding fights now and has completely disappeared from the WW rankings? Go figure. His excuse was a bad stomach... LOL almost as bad as Margarito saying he was weight drained. Sorry but Grandpa Mosley would still whoop Margarito..he killed a prime Marg - Post plaster Marg would die. Great joke about Clottey.. you had me in tears.
    Why is that fighters refuse to fight Clottey? Shane has had numerous offers to fight Clottey and passed same with Paul Williams?

    I mean Cotto took the chance and it was closer than we expected, so dismissing Clottey and calling my opinion a joke doesnt make any real sense. (blame it on the headbutt or what you will but thats what you deal with when you fight big clottey)

    Clottey put just almost as much damage on pacquiao as Cotto did. See if rankings spoke for the world then we wouldve seen more of Paul Williams at welter since he defeated margs back in 2007. However fear is a factor which kept PWill out of the limelight and the same with Joshua Clottey.


    If you ask me I feel Joshua could beat Mosley right now given the right gameplan. As for Margarito, I mean what does margarito REALLY possess that makes him a dangerous fighter? Well its his ability to take punishment along with dishing out pressure. We can talk plaster all we want but in retrospect what wins fights for margarito is wearing down his opponent by taking everything he has to offer ( IE Miguel Cotto Kermit Cintron ). Weve seen Cotto ( who has a power punch) against pacquiao and although Cotto had more success in attacking pacquiao and landing shots he rarely seemed hurt. However against margarito (who supposedly never had a punch until plaster wraps) he was definitely hurt with a body shot. So to say Margarito at 150lb against the greatest fighter in the world couldnt have beaten top welters that night is pretty nuts if you keep up with boxing and have watched these fighters progress

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      #42
      Originally posted by Phil Ivey
      HAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAH could beat Floyd, Martinez, Mosley? ARE YOU KIDDING? Looked faster? You can't be more dumber than you already sound. He was SLOWER because of 150 and the rehydration, Margarito faster HAHAHAHAAHHAHA, he punches slower than a Klitschko. Floyd would school Marg that showed up in Manny's fight, Mosley would of killed him, Martinez would of stopped him. Are you seriously saying a decision against a journeyman and a brutal KO loss is a viable opponent for a prime Pac? Hilarious how *******s try to make the win better than it is made out to be when Margarito is a D grade fighter post plaster and was a perfect pick for an 8th title. Btw all were coming off losses. I mean I give credit for Pac having two wars against JMM, beating Prime Barrera(x10000 times better than Marg), and beating Morales twice(not prime) but the Margarito win was just ridiculous.
      first off weve seen floyd against a fighter whos drastically outweighed him and it didnt go fully in floyds favor. Why do you think he tricked marquez in coming in at 142 and then BSed the weigh in to come in at 146? Cuase wether you believe it or not weight plays a HUGE role in fight (if youve ever been involved in boxing your life) I think Floyd would freak out at not hurting Margarito and the constant pressure would make him feel helpless. Little Ricky Hatton pressured Floyd and had success early in thier fight but the fact Hatton is a natural 140lber and not 147lber made a big difference in taking a punch. It also didnt help that Hatton swings open and comes in with his chin exposed But when it comes down to brass tax, FLoyd wouldnt even come close to beating down margarito the way pac did. So to ridicule such a tough oppositions speaks nothing but ignorance on your part and this means you should take all factors into play before debating. As far as margarito looking slower? I beg to differ which makes me think you havent kept up with margs career. he trained this fight specifically for speed and it showed. Pacquiao may be there to be hit but its not as easy as you think

      it doesnt sound like you have any fight experience under your belt either the way you toss assumptions around based on outside perspective. I dont consider martinez cause he is a middleweight now. But Margarito has beaten him before, he is probably more successful now cause hes got more weight on him eh go figure.

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