Why didn't manny let cotto and margarito fight at their ideal weights?

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  • pbftxrs316
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    Why didn't manny let cotto and margarito fight at their ideal weights?

    Seeing how they rehydrated up so much anyway? Why couldn't margarito fight at 154? When manny makes somebody fight at a catchweight, shouldn't he do the same? Isn't that what you ****heads on here criticize floyd for? Not weighing the contractual weight for the marquez fight? Huh? Man, the hypocrisy of pacquaio fans----lol---

    so, floyd was too big for jmm, and cheated the scales because he came in 2 pounds over the 144 lb limit, but manny gets a pass fighting tony coming in 5.5 lbs lower? Maintaining his speed, and foot movement, whereas he may not have had the same speed had he weighed more---what's the deal with that nonsense--

    manny fans are hypocritters(and i meant to spell it that way-lol)

    you *******s are too funny--i bet the majority of manny fans consist of 12 year old school boys who just started watching boxing when floyd retired after the hatton fight----

    so tell me this school boys, floyd coming in at 146 was an extra advantage for him, because he was bigger, yet, manny coming in at 144.5 isn't? Because tony was bigger right? But manny was much faster and he may have been slower had he fought at 150 or 154 for that matter---

    the same with cotto---cotto won his title at 147---not a catchweight--why couldn't manny?

    And yes, i heard de la hoya weighed 145 when he fought manny but i won't fault manny for that one--that was oscar's fault--and to be fair to manny some, those guys didn't have to sign the contract to fight at those weights, but manny shouldn't be considered champion at those weights also---

    which is why floyd is ranked number at ww, seeing how he beat the undisputed ww champion(which wasn't cotto) in shane mosley at 147----

    so, let's do the math shall we?-lol--

    floyd gets bashed for fighting a so called bum in baldomir--even though carlos was the undisputed ww champion, and was allowed to weigh 147 at the weigh in, a comfortable weight for him, and he gained 16 pounds fight night, whereas floyd only gained 3---floyd dominates him and becomes the wbc ww champion---the undisputed champion---

    fast forward--manny beats cotto at 145---defends it against clottey-who had just come off a close lost to cotto---then manny fights the guy that the last and current undisputed ww champion in shane mosley--who floyd just dominated--so, in hindsight, floyd is really the 2 time undisputed ww champion---when was the last time this was achieved?

    How did cotto win his ww title? Not a catchweight---but wasn't it a vacated title? Something cotto seems to love fighting for?

    Now, manny fights margarito for a vacated jr mw title, seeing how martinez moved up--and vacated it, but at 150--and manny doesn't come in weighing 150--but gets the title anyway due to a masterful performance---but, doesn't want to defend it?

    Damn, wasn't this the same **** floyd was bashed for? He won a jr mw title and you basterds insulted him like no other for not defending it--and defending his ww title against a smaller fighter in hatton, but, hatton was the one who refused to fight floyd at 140, when floyd beat gatti--and admitted openly as well as his father that he was nowhere near ready for floyd yet---

    yet, manny defends his title that he won at catchweight and cotto won vacated---and defends it against josh clottey--a guy who just lost to cotto--now, who did clottey fight before cotto?

    The contradiciton on this forum is staggering to say the least--manny pacquiao fans don't know how to do their homework without cheating---just like their fighter of the month--

    but i'm no dumby---i don't expect to read anything logical from pac fans following this post, but it won't matter--it'll only make my argument that much better--so post away manny fans---

    tell me how i write novels and i'm so dumb and my so called hero floyd is a chump who has ducked this and that and how he's so called scared to death of manny---coz this is what i expect to read following this--so i don't even care--but until i read something that has any merit and actually refutes my stance on this, it won't matter---real fans know i'm telling the truth--

    it's bs---a guy breaks his contract by weighing more--he gets bashed---but a guy who breaks his contract weighing less, he gets praised because he was smaller-lol---nonsense---

    if that's the case and there is not a minimum you can weigh, only a maximum--then floyd shouldn't get bashed for the marquez fight should he? I MEAN, WASN'T THE MARQUEZ FIGHT A WW FIGHT? 141-147? WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? AT LEAST THERE WAS NO TITLE AT STAKE--WELL, FLOYD DIDN'T HAVE A TITLE TO BEGIN WITH, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN-LOL-FLOYD NEVER SAID HE WAS COMING IN AT 144---HE ALWAYS SAID HE WAS FIGHTING AT 147---SO IT WASN'T A SHOCK TO ME THAT HE CAME IN AT 146---YET, YOU ASSWIPES BASH HIM FOR CHEATING JMM----

    And correct me if i'm wrong, didn't freddie just say that if manny fights jmm again, it will have to be at 147? Damn, again the bs coming from toprank and team arum, not team paquiao--pac is just the fighter from team arum--because bob makes all of the decisions for manny--not the other way around--manny does not control his business---bob arum does--and arum is full of piss and prune juice--he's too old for vinegar-lol--

    now, let's see what you fine folks have to say about this---and it would be smart for you all to read this fully and then argue---
    Last edited by pbftxrs316; 11-27-2010, 05:54 PM.
  • loui_ludwig
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    #2
    Damn, really. I mean i know you guys hate Manny but can't talk about Money cuz his on vacation. But damn.

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    • Bretty Poy32
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      Seeing how they rehydrated up so much anyway? Why couldn't margarito fight at 154? When manny makes somebody fight at a catchweight, shouldn't he do the same? Isn't that what you ****heads on here criticize floyd for? Not weighing the contractual weight for the marquez fight? Huh? Man, the hypocrisy of pacquaio fans----lol---

      so, floyd was too big for jmm, and cheated the scales because he came in 2 pounds over the 144 lb limit, but manny gets a pass fighting tony coming in 5.5 lbs lower? Maintaining his speed, and foot movement, whereas he may not have had the same speed had he weighed more---what's the deal with that nonsense--

      manny fans are hypocritters(and i meant to spell it that way-lol)

      you *******s are too funny--i bet the majority of manny fans consist of 12 year old school boys who just started watching boxing when floyd retired after the hatton fight----

      so tell me this school boys, floyd coming in at 146 was an extra advantage for him, because he was bigger, yet, manny coming in at 144.5 isn't? Because tony was bigger right? But manny was much faster and he may have been slower had he fought at 150 or 154 for that matter---

      the same with cotto---cotto won his title at 147---not a catchweight--why couldn't manny?

      And yes, i heard de la hoya weighed 145 when he fought manny but i won't fault manny for that one--that was oscar's fault--and to be fair to manny some, those guys didn't have to sign the contract to fight at those weights, but manny shouldn't be considered champion at those weights also---

      which is why floyd is ranked number at ww, seeing how he beat the undisputed ww champion(which wasn't cotto) in shane mosley at 147----

      so, let's do the math shall we?-lol--

      floyd gets bashed for fighting a so called bum in baldomir--even though carlos was the undisputed ww champion, and was allowed to weigh 147 at the weigh in, a comfortable weight for him, and he gained 16 pounds fight night, whereas floyd only gained 3---floyd dominates him and becomes the wbc ww champion---the undisputed champion---

      fast forward--manny beats cotto at 145---defends it against clottey-who had just come off a close lost to cotto---then manny fights the guy that the last and current undisputed ww champion in shane mosley--who floyd just dominated--so, in hindsight, floyd is really the 2 time undisputed ww champion---when was the last time this was achieved?

      How did cotto win his ww title? Not a catchweight---but wasn't it a vacated title? Something cotto seems to love fighting for?

      Now, manny fights margarito for a vacated jr mw title, seeing how martinez moved up--and vacated it, but at 150--and manny doesn't come in weighing 150--but gets the title anyway due to a masterful performance---but, doesn't want to defend it?

      Damn, wasn't this the same **** floyd was bashed for? He won a jr mw title and you basterds insulted him like no other for not defending it--and defending his ww title against a smaller fighter in hatton, but, hatton was the one who refused to fight floyd at 140, when floyd beat gatti--and admitted openly as well as his father that he was nowhere near ready for floyd yet---

      yet, manny defends his title that he won at catchweight and cotto won vacated---and defends it against josh clottey--a guy who just lost to cotto--now, who did clottey fight before cotto?

      The contradiciton on this forum is staggering to say the least--manny pacquiao fans don't know how to do their homework without cheating---just like their fighter of the month--

      but i'm no dumby---i don't expect to read anything logical from pac fans following this post, but it won't matter--it'll only make my argument that much better--so post away manny fans---

      tell me how i write novels and i'm so dumb and my so called hero floyd is a chump who has ducked this and that and how he's so called scared to death of manny---coz this is what i expect to read following this--so i don't even care--but until i read something that has any merit and actually refutes my stance on this, it won't matter---real fans know i'm telling the truth--

      it's bs---a guy breaks his contract by weighing more--he gets bashed---but a guy who breaks his contract weighing less, he gets praised because he was smaller-lol---nonsense---

      if that's the case and there is not a minimum you can weigh, only a maximum--then floyd shouldn't get bashed for the marquez fight should he?

      And correct me if i'm wrong, didn't freddie just say that if manny fights jmm again, it will have to be at 147? Damn, again the bs coming from toprank and team arum, not team paquiao--pac is just the fighter from team arum--because bob makes all of the decisions for manny--not the other way around--manny does not control his business---bob arum does--and arum is full of piss and prune juice--he's too old for vinegar-lol--

      now, let's see what you fine folks have to say about this---and it would be smart for you all to read this fully and then argue---
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      • pbftxrs316
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        #4
        Originally posted by loui_ludwig
        Damn, really. I mean i know you guys hate Manny but can't talk about Money cuz his on vacation. But damn.
        i don't hate manny--don't get it twisted champ--

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          #5
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          • Twako
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            #6
            Originally posted by pbftxrs316
            tell me how i write novels and i'm so dumb and my so called hero floyd is a chump who has ducked this and that and how he's so called scared to death of manny---coz this is what i expect to read following this--
            this is the only part of your post which mattered and is true. posters dont need to reply, you summed it all here in this short paragraph.

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              Translation -


              "LEAVE FLOYD ALONE!"

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              • Ko King 212
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                Jesus f-ckin Christ. Do you mothaf-ckas talk about anything else but manny and floyd. It's crazy fights on today and here you are talkin about the same ****.
                Last edited by Ko King 212; 11-27-2010, 09:28 PM.

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                • pbftxrs316
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Twako
                  this is the only part of your post which mattered and is true. posters dont need to reply, you summed it all here in this short paragraph.
                  okay---what would you call your post then? a ****ing response----damn you people make it too easy for me to make you look like idiots---

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                  • pbftxrs316
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ko King 212
                    Jesus f-ckin Christ. Do you mothaf-ckas talk about anything else but manny and clod. It's crazy fights on today and here you are talkin about the same ****.
                    since you're still fairly new to this forum, i won't rip on you too much--but you have to help me a lot just a little if you may---

                    what the hell is manny and clod? who is clod?lol---

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