I really don't think Abraham has got a lot of heart if you want my honest opinion.

[Pez]

If you're still trying to win in a fight you're losing, that to me is heart. AA hasn't had the opportunity to show just how much he has but he has shown a good amount. And about the complaining to the body thing, I think he does get hit low. Look at his guard, he's completely covered up and the only thing there is to hit are his nuts. His problem isn't getting hit to the body, his problem is relying too much on the ref to give him a breather whether or not the low blow was a serious hit.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Not true at all. If I didn't enjoy the sport I wouldn't shell out the money I do to watch it on t.v. or go to live events. I thinks it's more that you don't agree with my opinions and that is what makes it so discontent.

I don't disagree with you inordinately, aside from obviously wrongheaded statements. Sometimes I may even agree with you on a point.


Like I said, it's an impression and an observation, not necessarily a comment on how contented you may be in actual life.



You agree that you're mindlessly nationalistic re. boxing at least (since you didn't challenge what the other guy said to that effect)?

[Check]

I don't disagree with you inordinately, aside from obviously wrongheaded statements. Sometimes I may even agree with you on a point.


Like I said, it's an impression and an observation, not necessarily a comment on how contented you may be in actual life.



You agree that you're mindlessly nationalistic re. boxing at least (since you didn't challenge what the other guy said to that effect)?

No, I didn't address Iceta specifically because I thought my comment about criticizing American fighters as well answered it. Iceta is just mad that Cotto is better than anyone he has ever liked.

Anyways, this thread is about Abe and Iceta is right. Abe doesn't have the heart to walk through the punches that he will be hit with by a longer armed Froch. He is going to get busted up for 12 rounds.

[CrackYourJaw]

I'll put 10 million e-points on Abe.

Any takers?

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Abe doesn't have the heart to walk through the punches that he will be hit with by a longer armed Froch. He is going to get busted up for 12 rounds.

He might get KO'd (I doubt it), but I bet you he doesn't quit, whatever abuse he takes.


Abe will be trying to KO Carl in round 12 if it gets that far. Watch.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

And, FWIW, Carl might be long-armed, but Abraham's speed is deceptive, his hands get there quick when he's in range, and Carl doesn't control range that well.


If long-armed, speedy Dirrell (who is much harder to hit than Froch) got put on the canvas by Abraham, don't doubt that King Arthur will land some good leather tonight.


I'm pulling for Carl, but Abraham is no joke. I've got him winning.

[Iceta Lives]

No, I didn't address Iceta specifically because I thought my comment about criticizing American fighters as well answered it. Iceta is just mad that Cotto is better than anyone he has ever liked.

Anyways, this thread is about Abe and Iceta is right. Abe doesn't have the heart to walk through the punches that he will be hit with by a longer armed Froch. He is going to get busted up for 12 rounds.

Plenty of fighters that I'm fans of that are and should be above Cotto in the P4P list. Don't know what you mean.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Plenty of fighters that I'm fans of that are and should be above Cotto in the P4P list. Don't know what you mean.

Allow me to officiate,



name 'em.

[Iceta Lives]

Allow me to officiate,



name 'em.

Martinez is better than Cotto obviously. So is Glen Johnson and he aint even ranked in the top ten either. JMM is better than Cotto. Donaire and Montiel are too even though I'm not a Donaire fan.

[AntonTheMeh]

i though this was a quote from carl froch, turns out its nsb's resident grouch.