why is martinez getting a pass for catchweight 155 lbs?

[jrosales13]

The TS is an idiot so lets get that out of the way right now.

But, why are people giving Martinez a pass for wanting to fight Pac and Floyd at 154 and above? While P-Will got shitted on for wanting to fight both Floyd or Pac at 147, I repeat at 147, people who said he was too big and picking on smaller guys he wanted to fight them again at 147, is not a type he wanted to fight them at 147.

Now the same people who were all saying P-Will should fight guys his size and not call out the smaller guys. Are giving Martinez a pass for wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at 154 and above. Not 147 but 154 and above. It would be Floyd or Pac who is ducking if they don't fight Sergio at 154 and above.

That is hypocrisy. Don't get me wrong I am a big Martinez fan. And, I have no problem with him wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at 154 and above. It would be great. But, then again I also didn't have a problem with P-Will wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at get this......154... Some of you guys can't say the same though.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

The TS is an idiot so lets get that out of the way right now.

But, why are people giving Martinez a pass for wanting to fight Pac and Floyd at 154 and above? While P-Will got shitted on for wanting to fight both Floyd or Pac at 147, I repeat at 147, people who said he was too big and picking on smaller guys he wanted to fight them again at 147, is not a type he wanted to fight them at 147.

Now the same people who were all saying P-Will should fight guys his size and not call out the smaller guys. Are giving Martinez a pass for wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at 154 and above. Not 147 but 154 and above. It would be Floyd or Pac who is ducking if they don't fight Sergio at 154 and above.

That is hypocrisy. Don't get me wrong I am a big Martinez fan. And, I have no problem with him wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at 154 and above. It would be great. But, then again I also didn't have a problem with P-Will wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at get this......154... Some of you guys can't say the same though.

I think if PWill won that fight convincingly, then PWill and supporters would still be pushing for that fight with Pac and Floyd.

Even at 147 where he says he can make weight, he's just giving a better offer that's closer to what Arum and Roach are looking for imo.

If PWill came in and said I want Pacman at 154 he would get the same reaction as Martinez is getting now, more so if he KO him in the 2nd round imo.

[mikemurni]

1. What kind of answer is that?, of course it's a reference, it's not wikipedia you dolt.

2.

Cotto - Coming off a dibilitating loss, otherwise a good spoonfed win
Hatton - No defense, no chin resistance, Had Sr. as a trainer - at least no catchweight
Clottey - lol, punchbag
Hoya - Zombie
Marg - Got KTFO by Mosley, catchweight - Good win against a dangerous opponent at least

3.

If you want to be considered the best, face the best not a bunch of washed up, coming of a recent KO loss, handpicked, in house fighters

1. Boxrec.. Wiki.. Hahaha.... Everybody in the know how knew that neither fighter deserved that WBC belt..

2. Lot of excuses right there... The reason why these fighters have loses is because they are fighting elite fighters themselves. Marg beat Cotto.. Cotto beat Mosley.. Mosley beat Marg.. Clottey lost to Marg and Cotto but were competitive fights.. Hatton was a 50/50 fight going in.. and Dela Hoya was a 3 to 1 favorite..

3. Pac is fighting the best.. He is fighting fighters that Floyd ducked..And Pac is looking for the next best WW in Berto as his next fight..

[King Ju-Ju]

Lol @ Martinez fighting Pac @ 147

[Pacquiao'd]

Pac is 154lb champ, didn't you watch his last fight? He won the WBC belt, his 8th world title.

did he beat a 154lber let alone someone that fights in that class and is a champ.

just another paper title

[Phenom]

The TS is an idiot so lets get that out of the way right now.

But, why are people giving Martinez a pass for wanting to fight Pac and Floyd at 154 and above? While P-Will got shitted on for wanting to fight both Floyd or Pac at 147, I repeat at 147, people who said he was too big and picking on smaller guys he wanted to fight them again at 147, is not a type he wanted to fight them at 147.

Now the same people who were all saying P-Will should fight guys his size and not call out the smaller guys. Are giving Martinez a pass for wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at 154 and above. Not 147 but 154 and above. It would be Floyd or Pac who is ducking if they don't fight Sergio at 154 and above.

That is hypocrisy. Don't get me wrong I am a big Martinez fan. And, I have no problem with him wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at 154 and above. It would be great. But, then again I also didn't have a problem with P-Will wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at get this......154... Some of you guys can't say the same though.

Martinez is getting a pass because he is challenging Manny for his WBC JrMW belt at the JrMW weight limit

[jrosales13]

I think if PWill won that fight convincingly, then PWill and supporters would still be pushing for that fight with Pac and Floyd.

Even at 147 where he says he can make weight, he's just giving a better offer that's closer to what Arum and Roach are looking for imo.

If PWill came in and said I want Pacman at 154 he would get the same reaction as Martinez is getting now, more so if he KO him in the 2nd round imo.

No he would not, cuz that would not have change the reaction of people saying he is 6'3 with a reach of the Klitshcko's.

If they gave him shit for wanting to fight at 147 the would have gave double the crap for wanting to fight either on just not "making closer to what Arum and Roach are looking for" bur for Floyd too at 154. They always said he was a MW wanting to fight WW. When ignoring the fact that he was beat by a WW in his first lost.

Neither Floyd nor Pac were considered a duck for not wanting to fight P-Will. And, this was a year ago when he was beating people convincingly, so him beat Martinez would not have change the fact.

Here is the truth every Floyd fan, who shitted on P-Will, and ****ting on Pac for this are just ******ed ass posters. Every Pac fan who is shitting on Martinez while ****ting on Floyd for not running to fight P-Will are ******ed ass posters as well.

The thing is this Pac fans liked that P-Will said, "Me and Pac will be a war", "Pac will probably fight me Floyd won't". "Floyd will not fight me cuz I don't have a vagina." "Pac is a warrior" Pac fans like that, some Floyd fans hated that. That is why the shitted on P-Will on a lot of bases. So that is why by some Floyd fans it was not considered a duck if Pac nor Floyd ever fought them.

Floyd fans like that Martinez said "Floyd is better than Pac", "Pac and myself is a mismatch", "Floyd will beat Pac" while Pac fans hate that. So now by some Floyd fans if Pac doesn't fight it is a duck.

The hypocrisy is ridiculous, P-Will wanted to fight both not just Pac but Floyd also. And, P-Will at worse would have been the 3rd best WW out there. But, somehow BOTH Floyd and Pac got a pass for never showing any interest in fighting him. While Martinez wants to fight at 154+ not just against Pac but BOTH also. But, somehow both Pac and Floyd(mainly Pac for some reason, Floyd is getting a pass here as well) are ducking while Martinez is getting Pass while P-Will was picking on smaller guys.

Everybody here who can't see both ways is just ridiculous.

[Easy-E]

The TS is an idiot so lets get that out of the way right now.

But, why are people giving Martinez a pass for wanting to fight Pac and Floyd at 154 and above? While P-Will got shitted on for wanting to fight both Floyd or Pac at 147, I repeat at 147, people who said he was too big and picking on smaller guys he wanted to fight them again at 147, is not a type he wanted to fight them at 147.

Now the same people who were all saying P-Will should fight guys his size and not call out the smaller guys. Are giving Martinez a pass for wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at 154 and above. Not 147 but 154 and above. It would be Floyd or Pac who is ducking if they don't fight Sergio at 154 and above.

That is hypocrisy. Don't get me wrong I am a big Martinez fan. And, I have no problem with him wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at 154 and above. It would be great. But, then again I also didn't have a problem with P-Will wanting to fight Floyd or Pac at get this......154... Some of you guys can't say the same though.

Simple...Martinez wasn't fighting guys at 147. His last time at welter was in 2001. Williams was fighting guys at 147 and 154 and said he could fight at either weight while Martinez was fighting guys at 154-160.

[jrosales13]

Martinez is getting a pass because he is challenging Manny for his WBC JrMW belt at the JrMW weight limit

And, P-Will was challenging BOTH Floyd for his lineal title and Pac for his WBO title at the WW limit? And, yet he got shitted on while Martinez is getting pass? Why is that?

P-Will challenged them at 147, not 160 or whatever 147 where both are campaigning at. Martinez is challenging both where both pretty much had a one and done deal at 154.

And, again challenging BOTH, you're acting like he is just challenging Pac. He is challenging BOTH Floyd and Pac.

[ADP02]

Shame that the Catchweight king can't even defend his title against a legit challenger... throwback P4P#1 my ass.

If he takes on Martinez and wins then some of you guys will say he will be forced to defend his 160 title and maybe you will also say it will have to be against a 168 lb fighter (Martinez 160lb CHAMPION)..... lol

They said during their camp that Manny should come down to 147 as it's too much to ask for from Manny at the higher weights.

This has been discussed before. Margarito was a stepping stone to see how far up the scale Manny can go. They fought, he won but also got hurt. So they need to decide if they can continue to go up.

If they can, great. If they can't then there is always Floyd whenever he gets back from his vacation.