Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez, Marquez Pick Mayweather Over Pacquiao

[fabie]

You question that he refuses to fight a man who himself refuses to take full WADA testing? Floyd is putting an undefeated record on the line as well as his legacy and status as the biggest draw in boxing and all he asks is for Manny to participate in full WADA testing. Very reasonable in my book. It's Manny's heart that I question. Just take the damn tests and fight.

Fighting once a year is hardly a P4P in my book.

And one cannot impose their "testings" on another without due proofs.

[Hi-Dro]

Marquez and Martinez dont know **** about boxing. Were's Cung Lee to drop some real knowledge on this thread

[fabie]

I swear martinez just contradicted himself?

The other day he hailed manny as the best in the sport and said he believes he would beat mayweather....

So whats that about?

It's called MARKETING.

[fabie]

It does actually. Judges take it into account. The other one's Ring Generalship, Effective Aggressiveness, and Clean Punching. They are not going to score ineffective agression if the guy is missing punches while the other is landing many clean punches, and not getting hit back.

DEFENSE are "influencive" rather than actual points during a fight. The only way a boxer scores points is he HITS THE OTHER.

[SceneSpectator!]

Pac got some solid punches and he was still standing while countering with vicious and rapid attacks his opponents, that makes me confident to believe Pac would win against Floyd. And Floyd, who wasn't tagged by fast with bombs to detonate in his left and right fists in the likes of Manny made me worry and believes that he will fall down in the canvass.. JMM not hitting Floyd isn't a surprise at all, besides from been bulging that made him more slower, he was forced to fight as the aggressive one, and a fight not his style being a counter-puncher! Pac will win against Floyd, doesn't surprise me either. Floyd good defense and shoulder rolls will somehow not effective to the fast hands and lateral movements agility of Pac, and just one well-placed punch to untested chin of Floyd and will be over!

[LeadUppercut]

To all those posters claiming that Mayweather would pick apart Manny, I have a simple question. [B][U]If it's so easy then why hasn't he done it yet?

I thought we discussed that the other day switch?

Wait until both sides come to terms, then make another demand in the last hour, knowing that it's both unreasonable and without merit, and that the other side will balk. Then turn around and offer the appearance that you wanted the fight all along, when in all reality it was merely an exit strategy.

Nah, that didn't happen.

Both Arum and Roach have publicly confirmed that the OST stipulations were on the table right from the word go.

Freddie actually publicly stated that random blood tests were no problem at all, as long as there was a 3-5 day cutoff.

BTW, how did Mayweather know that the other side would "balk" ?

Shane didn't balk. And here is my real problem..... nobody else has ever "balked" either. I have never heard of ANY athlete, from any sport, "balking" over random drug testing without being instantly labeled a cheat, and sometimes losing World Championship or Olympic medals.

If Mayweather wanted a way out of that fight, do you really think that he would have accepted 50/50? or that silly 10mil per pound demand?

He would have used one of four excuses, and ALL would be better than the one you outlined..... because, Manny could have simply taken the test.

Hopefully this rubbish is sorted by the time an official second negotiation takes place. Manny says that he will accept random blood tests next time, so I suppose we will have to wait and see.

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Marquez and Martinez dont know **** about boxing. Were's Cung Lee to drop some real knowledge on this thread

Good one

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I prefer Marvin Hagler's prediction. Where he stated that Pac will beat Mayweather.

Or even Lennox Lewis, who said Pac will beat Mayweather.

[Skills_Vs_Pills]

Defense dont win you points on the scorecards..

Your either playing ignorant or you (more likely) are ignorant.

If you actually watch whats going on in the ring, you'd be more knowledgeable about what's happening.

You obviously see the amazing defensive skills of Mayweather, but you choose to ignore his offensive skill set as if it's non existent.

That right there just shine's the light on your ******ity, bro!

He's won more than half of his fights by ko/tko and the rest by decision, so he obviously had to throw a few (sarcasm, dummy) punches to pull out the win.

I keep hearing you Pac cult members say that Pac is the best boxer in the world, which he isn't. If Pacquiao were to "BOX" Floyd, he'd get a slow and brutal beating.
Pac is a volume puncher that tries and overwhelms you (and it hasn't worked for him against a few fighters!)
That's something you *******s need to understand.

Floyd knows how to set up his punches and has great timing and counter-punching skills (Pac's KRYPTONITE!).

Being in love with your sex god shouldn't cloud your mind from the fact that Floyd is the more the more skillful and complete fighter of the two.

Might be hard for you to believe, but Marquez/Martinez are speaking the truth. Floyd just has more tools in his arsenal than Pac.

"Pacquiao wasn't ready for a fight with Mayweather in March"
- Trainer of the Century Freddy Roach after Pac/Clottey

I guess it's a good thing Coach Roach say's so much bull**** that he actually forgets what he said before and unknowingly contradicts himself

Also, forgot to mention something that is widely said in the sport.

Styles make fights!

And Pac's style is tailor made for Floyd.

He brings more than just offense and defense to a fight.
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And if you can't understand that, then you really don't understand this sport.

Which simply shows that your opinions don't mean much because you lack basic knowledge of this sport.

[Skills_Vs_Pills]

Pac got some solid punches and he was still standing while countering with vicious and rapid attacks his opponents, that makes me confident to believe Pac would win against Floyd. And Floyd, who wasn't tagged by fast with bombs to detonate in his left and right fists in the likes of Manny made me worry and believes that he will fall down in the canvass.. JMM not hitting Floyd isn't a surprise at all, besides from been bulging that made him more slower, he was forced to fight as the aggressive one, and a fight not his style being a counter-puncher! Pac will win against Floyd, doesn't surprise me either. Floyd good defense and shoulder rolls will somehow not effective to the fast hands and lateral movements agility of Pac, and just one well-placed punch to untested chin of Floyd and will be over!

Answer this one pinay:

Who hits harder: Mosley or Pac?

It'd be best to ask Plasterito, but his face is still busted up.

Floyd took Mosley's best shot twice (overhand right) and was still standing. His chin was officially tested that night.