Comments Thread For: Sergio Martinez, Marquez Pick Mayweather Over Pacquiao

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I've been saying the same thing for the longest! those who
know my post, know that I already said Floyd defense and counter
punching would be too much for Manny Pacquiao. I think Freddie
Roach felt the same to before the first negotiations.....

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"Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see." (Freddie Roach).

Would be too late in the game to train Manny to beat
Mayweather. Mayweather is not only the best defensive
fighter but also the most accurate and an excellent
counter puncher. Floyd would stop Manny in his tracks.
So Pac fans! I guess Marquez and Martinez are *****s
too?

[sNiTcH]

maybe he is, but can't you see he's just laying out the facts you're too blind to see?

*****s idea? no thanks sponogebob has more knowledge than a *****

[v.cassiusali@ya]

chicken floyd chickens out with pac because he knew pacman will erase his overguarded "0".

so he would better shut his mouth and took the criticisms with bowed head...

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Pac made Cotto, Clottey, and Marg three fighters Floyd ducked.. look easy and DLH AND HATTON..

Watch what you say now..

True but Roach still said Mayweather was better than them
and a style Manny has never faced and needed more time
to prepare Manny for. Why are you Pac fans trying to stay
in the darkest. Come to the light! Floyd will humilate
Pacquiao and that's why he didn't accept the blood tests.
They tried to bluff Floyd with the 10MIL penalty but Floyd
agreed and then they made the tests an issue. Look at
the fighters Manny are fighting as of recent? None displayed
any ring generalship OR defense. Nobody really knows how
Manny would do against Floyd or any other fighter with
good boxing skills. Marquez showed us a lil of how to
nullify Manny's offense but instead of outboxing Manny
he wanted to stick his chest out and ****. Marquez and
Martinez knows the deal. Even Freddie Roach said the
same prior to the first negotiations......

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"Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see." (Freddie Roach).

[sapaw]

True but Roach still said Mayweather was better than them
and a style Manny has never faced and needed more time
to prepare Manny for. Why are you Pac fans trying to stay
in the darkest. Come to the light! Floyd will humilate
Pacquiao and that's why he didn't accept the blood tests.
They tried to bluff Floyd with the 10MIL penalty but Floyd
agreed and then they made the tests an issue. Look at
the fighters Manny are fighting as of recent? None displayed
any ring generalship OR defense. Nobody really knows how
Manny would do against Floyd or any other fighter with
good boxing skills. Marquez showed us a lil of how to
nullify Manny's offense but instead of outboxing Manny
he wanted to stick his chest out and ****. Marquez and
Martinez knows the deal. Even Freddie Roach said the
same prior to the first negotiations......

we can always argue that he is better than him and that and so for... But where is your so called fighter? maybe you should tell that to your boxer to motivate him to come out from vacation...?

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we can always argue that he is better than him and that and so for... But where is your so called fighter? maybe you should tell that to your boxer to motivate him to come out from vacation...?

Come on man! We all know that Manny Pacquiao dropped
the ball on the first negotiations. When Floyd was ready to
fight, what did Manny do? After Freddie Roach said that they
would accept the tests. He sued them AND now all of a sudden
Roach, Arum and Pac mention Floyd's name and now Floyd is
scared of Pac? How can Floyd or anyone be scared of a man
that is scared to give blood? You Pac fans are crazy. Arum
has you eating out the palms of his hands. Arum's whole Top
Rank clock and deadline was just to make Floyd look like he didn't
want the fight, so Pac could save face. During the training
camp for Clottey, Pac was immitating Floyd's style. Roach even
said it himself that Pac wouldn't be ready for a fight with Floyd
by March, when the first fight was supposed to happen so they
got a softer touch in Clottey. When it is all said and done, Pac
has to fight and beat Floyd to be considered the best no matter
how many tomatoes cans, Top Rank throws in the ring with
Pac.

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"Mayweather is so different than our last four opponents [Cotto, Ricky Hatton, De La Hoya and David Diaz]. We have to study him really hard. But I know Mayweather really well. I just need Manny to see what I see." (Freddie Roach).

I think I prefer to take Marquez, Martinez and Roach's outlook
rather than Pac fans. Thank you very much.

[sapaw]

Come on man! We all know that Manny Pacquiao dropped
the ball on the first negotiations. When Floyd was ready to
fight, what did Manny do? After Freddie Roach said that they
would accept the tests. He sued them AND now all of a sudden
Roach, Arum and Pac mention Floyd's name and now Floyd is
scared of Pac? How can Floyd or anyone be scared of a man
that is scared to give blood? You Pac fans are crazy. Arum
has you eating out the palms of his hands. Arum's whole Top
Rank clock and deadline was just to make Floyd look like he didn't
want the fight, so Pac could save face. During the training
camp for Clottey, Pac was immitating Floyd's style. Roach even
said it himself that Pac wouldn't be ready for a fight with Floyd
by March, when the first fight was supposed to happen so they
got a softer touch in Clottey. When it is all said and done, Pac
has to fight and beat Floyd to be considered the best no matter
how many tomatoes cans, Top Rank throws in the ring with
Pac.



I think I prefer to take Marquez, Martinez and Roach's outlook
rather than Pac fans. Thank you very much.

let just say that pac is more like have the fault on the first negotiation even the demand is out of the box... Then the second one??? dont **** out that there's no negotiation coz the most credible man in boxing (HBO president) even said that there were negotiations for the second time... and whats the alibi? no negotiation... on vacation...? if still about the drug testing the second time, it so freaking easy for floyd and GBP that manny did not agree to full OST...

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let just say that pac is more like have the fault on the first negotiation even the demand is out of the box... Then the second one??? dont **** out that there's no negotiation coz the most credible man in boxing (HBO president) even said that there were negotiations for the second time... and whats the alibi? no negotiation... on vacation...? if still about the drug testing the second time, it so freaking easy for floyd and GBP that manny did not agree to full OST...

Arum probably made a proposal but the follow up wasn't appropriate.
How can you use the media to negotiate the deal? Arum, mostly
everyday had something to tell the media about the negotiatings
but never anything Team Mayweather said. My thing is this. Why
would Floyd agree to fight Manny the first time and Manny bail out.
Then all of sudden Floyd is scared to fight him? Manny could have
got it if he really wanted it. Didn't even have to be a 2nd try.....

Pacquiao and Mayweather had agreed to unlimited random urine testing, but Mayweather also insisted on random blood testing, even though the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, requires only urine testing.

Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs) didn't want blood testing but later relented and agreed to three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would have taken place next week, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would be subject to the same testing procedures.

When they could not come to an agreement, Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, which represents Mayweather, turned to a mediator, retired judge Daniel Weinstein, who had successfully mediated a series of disputes between Top Rank and Golden Boy in 2007.

But after nine hours in mediation on Tuesday in Santa Monica, Calif., and further attempts to come to a resolution on Wednesday failed, the fight was pronounced dead by the Pacquiao camp

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=4808708.

So are you trying to tell me that Floyd was/is scared to fight Pacquiao
when the **** could have happened? NO WAY am I going to believe
that.

[fabie]

every1 knows floyd is better then pac ppl can hate but have to respect his skillz

I give his skills the most respect in the world...it is his heart that is questionable.

[Al_Jones718]

floyd has been hit before, mosley has a lot of power and caught floyd clean, twice... zab even got him with a good left.. and he was able to recover and dominate the rest of the fight..