How would Floyd beat Pac?

[trainhard_187]

Hahaha, oh trust me he can. This is gonna look exactly like the Zab Judah fight.

So you mean Uncle Rogers jumping in to save Floyd from a beatdown?

[scap]

Floyd has got to find a way to keep Manny's punch output down. Lil Floyd will want to land that straight right hand and then clinch not allowing any 3-4 punch two fisted retaliations from PAC. (Must find a way to slow the pace IE 8 minute drives when you play Peyton Manning...just not sure if that is possible with PAC)

Floyd cant win a fight where he is throwing 40 shots per round and Manny is throwing 75-I dont see Floyd upping his output because that requires too much risk so he needs to find a way to slow PAC's output. Tying PAC up after landed shots and walking him a round a bit would slow the fight down. Boom one big right hand from Floyd and the crowd goes crazy...5, 6, 7, 8 seconds of being tied up frustrating PAC...then start the whole process over if your Floyd.

I also think Mayweather is a better puncher and much stronger (someone earlier eluded to this) then he gets credit for and in spots could stun PAC buying himself more and more time to run out the clock.

I think Floyd should have fought PAC immediately after the Oscar fight-so much has changed since that time between the two fighters mentally. PAC appears to believe he is invincible and Floyd has doubts. Had the fight taken place immediately after the Delahoya fight Floyd still thought he was invincible and I think PAC may have had some doubts. That time has passed for Floyd and the doubts will only grow larger in the next 1-2 years.

[copelahama]

Manny suffers against boxers who are able to effectively counter punch because his style is so messy - regardless of how you look at him there are always openings that floyd is going to exploit all night. This on top of the fact that mayweather is naturally a bigger and stronger fighter - i really just cant see manny winning this..

[M.I Truth ?]

The thing some people fail to take into account is that Floyd style and timing may cut into Pac's work rate. The only reason someone like Marquez was able to hang with Pac at all is because of timing and ring IQ. Pac is better now than he was then but may have problems with similar strengths. Even if you don't feel Floyd is as fast as Pac he is fast enough to make Pac pay. The last few guys Pac has fought were bigger and stronger but the speed desparity was so great Pac could throw move out or stay in as he pleased and not be too concerned. In fact his superior speed intimidates guys into not throwing. Against Floyd its more complicated because Floyd may decide to use the jab with his reach and time Pac coming at him. Floyd is fast enough to make Pac pay if he tries to flurry uncessfully and that alone can may make him throw less if he gets tagged. The other issue is if Pac gets inside Floyd's jab he has to be careful Floyd doesn't clintch him and throw to the body. Its an underatted but effective part of Floyds game. These are all IFs though. I can easily see how either guy can do things to win. And for those does that don't think Floyd can hurt Pac you should think twice. Short flush shot can hurt anyone. It basically will come down to whos game plan s correct and who can make adjustments when needed.

[Las Vegas,]

Ealy rounds of the Judah fight, as to why i don't see that happening.

Pacquiao will eventually get frustrated and pressure Floyd he'll make tons of mistakes just like he made in the Morales and JMM fights. I'm expecting a easy UD.

[Las Vegas,]

Manny suffers against boxers who are able to effectively counter punch because his style is so messy - regardless of how you look at him there are always openings that floyd is going to exploit all night. This on top of the fact that mayweather is naturally a bigger and stronger fighter - i really just cant see manny winning this..

Exactly...

[muppetman]

Can Floyd fans explain this to me?

I cannot see Floyd beating Pac, and these are the reasons why.

1) Countering speed and volume is VERY hard.

I don't see Floyd being able to do this, more likely, when Manny flurries Floyd will block maybe 7/10 shots, but still get hit with 3.

2) Pac has 12 rounds stamina

He won't tire and allow Floyd to dominate in the late stages

3) Floyd can no longer match Pac's footspeed

His legs are going.

4) Floyd is too inactive

One fight a year, he will not be at 100%, which he needs to be

5) Floyd doesnt have the power to hurt Pac

Pac does have the power to hurt Floyd though.

the way Marquez beat him those two times,just worse.seriously

[trainhard_187]

Manny suffers against boxers who are able to effectively counter punch because his style is so messy - regardless of how you look at him there are always openings that floyd is going to exploit all night. This on top of the fact that mayweather is naturally a bigger and stronger fighter - i really just cant see manny winning this..

Surprisingly Floyd doesnt have the same faith as you for some reason?

But he does have a history of avoiding Top opposition..

[Khalid X]

Manny isn't gonna fight Floyd the same way he fought Margarito, DLH, Hatton, Clottey, etcetc. Floyd is a counter puncher, what's worse for Manny is that he's just as quick as Manny. If Manny decides to pressure him, you can expect a TKO real quick. REAL quick. Floyd isn't gonna come forward this fight. Watch the 2nd JMM fight. JMM is a good counter puncher, a brilliant boxer and he held his own against Manny. Wanna know why? Manny couldn't exchange without getting immediately countered. The problem is Marquez sometime becomes to aggressive and gets caught. You won't get that for Floyd. He'll wait 12 rounds for you to make a mistake. He isn't gonna come forward unless he's confident you ain't **** to him. *******s have this idea that the Floyd fight is somehow gonna be a great fight. No, it's gonna be a one sided beat down. Floyd's too quick and will pretty much counter almost everything Manny does. It's gonna be a one sided domination. If Manny turns this into a fight it'll be embarrassing.

Also, I'd like to point out Floyd is a better boxer than JMM, faster, and bigger.

Your gonna be surprised because Floyd isn't gonna stay on his back foot,
trying to counter in this fight. If he does...then Manny will beat him.

Dude will have his high guard up, using a quick jab, trying to make Manny fight going backwards.

There will be so many surprises in this fight and the fans perception of what will happen being totally wrong.

[copelahama]

Surprisingly Floyd doesnt have the same faith as you for some reason?

But he does have a history of avoiding Top opposition..

You could say that but i mean boxing fans are never really going to know the whole story - i mean sure there is compelling evidence to think that floyd is been a ****in ***** but i mean people are just so quick to jump to conclusions when they dont know the full story. I mean his got so many legal problems at the moment his mind just seems to be elsewhere - whether he brought these problems about on purpose to avoid a fight (sounds pretty far fetched) or; its just one of many things on his mind before he decides to sign a deal for the biggest fight of his life.
Although i do agree its starting to look like he may be scared im just saying open your mind, we can never know everything thats going on..