Martinez vs manny at 154 ...no catchweight bull****!!!!

[Kingdelboxeo]

well said i couldnt have said it any better my self.....its bullshhit he get to make up his own rules.

mayweather kinda did that with his random blood test thing

[muppetman]

mayweather kinda did that with his random blood test thing

way off subject bro....theres another thread for floyd vs sergio

[brick wall]

pac doesn't need to fight martinez nor he needs to prove something to take on that fight. for all intents, martinez should be embarassed if he picks a fight with pac. he's just too big for pac. pac has a 154 title but we all know it's just a paper title. and we also know what happened to pac in his fight with margarito. although he dominated margo, he also got terribly hurt because as his opponents go bigger they also get more powerful.
and it's not just martinez's skills that will make the difference because in essence he really has no skills advantage over pac. it's all because of his size advantage. he is bigger, taller and rangier...and because of that it's easier for him to put his skills to work.

[boxer2k5]

i dont think its a matter of weight or catchweight that would stop this fight from happening, i thinks its more of martinez not being a walking punching bag that would stop this fight

and thats why they would stress the catchweight even more. if martinez was a bum or slow or another margirito they would prob fight at 154. but being its martinez and his style they will stress for some crazy 149 50 catchweight.

[Canelo Phresh]

Pac beats him
Martinez is overrated as hell lately
Martinez strongest attribute is speed
Pac's faster than he is
no damage, but Sergio would get outpointed
Pac won't be still for him to land really big punches
a quicker man makes Sergio pay for those low held hands
close decision, Martinez won't be dominated, but Pac wins

[boxer2k5]

pac doesn't need to fight martinez nor he needs to prove something to take on that fight. for all intents, martinez should be embarassed if he picks a fight with pac. he's just too big for pac. pac has a 154 title but we all know it's just a paper title. and we also know what happened to pac in his fight with margarito. although he dominated margo, he also got terribly hurt because as his opponents go bigger they also get more powerful.
and it's not just martinez's skills that will make the difference because in essence he really has no skills advantage over pac. it's all because of his size advantage. he is bigger, taller and rangier...and because of that it's easier for him to put his skills to work.

how he too big? martinez vacated the wbc junior middleweight title that manny currently has and fought for because he won the same belt at middle. manny now is too small to defend and have the belt he so gloriously won? stop with the bull****. you mean martinez is too big for his style for manny. but its ok for margirito to be so much bigger but when its a mover boxer martinez should be ashamed.

[MindBat]

mayweather kinda did that with his random blood test thing

Arum and Team Pac kinda thought it was good idea until the hail of excuses surfaced from Pac's side.

[el malo]

pac would ud martinez at 154 but pac's team won't make the fight at 154.

[brick wall]

how he too big? martinez vacated the wbc junior middleweight title that manny currently has and fought for because he won the same belt at middle. manny now is too small to defend and have the belt he so gloriously won? stop with the bull****. you mean martinez is too big for his style for manny. but its ok for margirito to be so much bigger but when its a mover boxer martinez should be ashamed.

only a blind would ask that question...are you blind? martinez walks around at 180ish lbs...pac at 150. pac's fight weigh-in is at 144-145...martinez at 157-159. pac's fight time weight is 148-149...martinez around 168. how's martinez too big? use your common sense if you have one.
i already said it...pac's 154 title is just a paper title. it's more of a courtesy title given by wbc...blame corruption for that. pac can fight martinez if he wants but he doesn't need to that's what i'm trying to say. if pac continues to fight bigger guys the risk to his health is also bigger. it doesn't mean that because he fought a guy like margarito, he needs to fight another guy of the same size. it's all about limitations, like i said although he beat margo he definitely felt his power and nursed the pain days after the fight. anybody who is concerned about his health will advise pac not take another fight north of 147. there's nothing hard to understand with that...unless you're a hater who's waiting too long in vain to see him get beaten in the ring. are you?

[boxer2k5]

only a blind would ask that question...are you blind? martinez walks around at 180ish lbs...pac at 150. pac's fight weigh-in is at 144-145...martinez at 157-159. pac's fight time weight is 148-149...martinez around 168. how's martinez too big? use your common sense if you have one.
i already said it...pac's 154 title is just a paper title. it's more of a courtesy title given by wbc...blame corruption for that. pac can fight martinez if he wants but he doesn't need to that's what i'm trying to say. if pac continues to fight bigger guys the risk to his health is also bigger. it doesn't mean that because he fought a guy like margarito, he needs to fight another guy of the same size. it's all about limitations, like i said although he beat margo he definitely felt his power and nursed the pain days after the fight. anybody who is concerned about his health will advise pac not take another fight north of 147. there's nothing hard to understand with that...unless you're a hater who's waiting too long in vain to see him get beaten in the ring. are you?

ricky hatton walks around at 180 so what you saying? walk around weight and fighting weight are 2 different things. i dont know about you but i walk around 190 and fight at 65 78. and i cant fight at my walk around weight. reason why boxers go into training camps.
james toney use to get up to 200 and fight middleweight. its nothing but fat and water weight it means nothing. 2nd manny is the ****ing junior middleweight champion he jsut beat someone thats 5'10 walked into the ring at 165 now all of a sudden martinez is too ****ing big for him to defend and fight against? dont give me that bull**** martinez size has nothing to do with it its his style thats the reason why manny would never fight him.
even if martinez was 5'8 147 pounds they would never fight him. if martinez was another margirito they would take the fight with no problem.