Floyd Beats them at their Best, Pac their worse

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  • clmags12
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    #41
    Originally posted by M.I.C.
    A man of Pac's limited skills and abilities got to be on something, as proffessional observers have noted he doesn't even appear to feel the punches of bigger men, while only a few fights earlier JMM was ping ponging him around the ring.
    Bro, really?
    Punch resistance increases due to him not engaging in any form of weight loss training. Its a fact.
    Compare the type of punch combinations that Manny throws from JMM to now, his right hand is now a major weapon.

    Those professional observers need to start drinking after the fight.

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      #42
      Originally posted by M.I.C.
      A man of Pac's limited skills and abilities got to be on something, as proffessional observers have noted he doesn't even appear to feel the punches of bigger men, while only a few fights earlier JMM was ping ponging him around the ring.
      ok ur an officia hater ur blinded by ur hate and its no use arguing with u bye!!

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      • M.I.C.
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        #43
        Originally posted by carts
        ok ur an officia hater ur blinded by ur hate and its no use arguing with u bye!!
        U think Pac is an all around fighter? I see a very limited skill set, highly specialized at beating slow lumbering oafs.

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        • Rolaz
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          #44
          If you want to know the truth, just simply see all the faces of boxers that Pacman fought!

          If you think Floyd can easily beat Pacman, by all means convince Floyd to come out and fight Pacman next yaer!

          Pacman has shown in the world that he can take hard punches from taller and heavier opponents and then unleashes his own combos with great speed!
          resulting in disfigured faces of his opponents.

          Computer stats simply shows that Pacman can outpunched Floyd!

          Now Pacman is at his best winning 8th crown,

          but, Floyd remains so SILENT...

          Why?

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          • ADP02
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            #45
            Originally posted by M.I.C.
            Seriously since moving to 135, the only cat Pac has really fought that wasn't damaged goods was Clottey. But fortunately for Pac, Clottey is a guy who doesn't throw punches.

            Floyd in his last 5-7, with the exception of Sharmba Mitchell has fought guys at their perceived best.

            Gatti was supposedly resurgent and supposedly had all these new skills courtesy of Buddy Mcgirt, the air was let out that tire in 6 rounds.

            Zab had lost to Baldy by not taking him seriously but then he shows up many times better and sharper vs Floyd, and gets beaten.

            So rather than avoid Baldy who just defeated Floyds last two opponents Zab and Gatti, Floyd fights him and Baldy at that time was clearly at his best, regardless of how low that peak is in comparison to Floyd.

            Oscar was at his best weight 154, coming off one of his best wins over Mayorga, Oscar would of beaten many fighters that night but Floyd is not most fighters. It would take a Pac contracted move to 145 lbs before Oscar became a zombiefied.

            Hatton was clearly at his peak, KOing Castillo with a body shot. Moving up in weight a few pounds should of helped him more than hurt him and thats real talk. And its not like Floyd was a big Welterweight, he was bloody smaller than Hatton.

            Marquez, despite what you haters may think was still in his prime when he lost to Floyd at 144 or however much he weighed. Yeah he came up in weight, but coming up is still better than going down. One thing is for sure, Marquez had just defeated Casamayor and Diaz, that's a fighter on a high note, not a low.

            Mosley, yep, was the top welterweight and beat the snot out of Margarito...had Floyd fought him say coming off a performance such as vs Sergio Mora, then that would of seemed like a ***** move wouldn't it?

            When Floyd fights Pac, which is certain to happen as soon as Manroid gets over his fear of needles....again Floyd will be facing a guy at his best, and will embarrass Pac just like he does all his other opponents.

            Now as far as Pac fighting guys at their best.......sorry but that just dont happen.

            Sharmba - you said it yourself, not worthy.

            Gatti - Fought too many wars and was not prime material anymore. Hence, the change in styles to make Gatti survive a couple of more fights. Gatti struggled to make weight at 140 by then and moved up after the Floyd fight. Gatti even admitted that 147 was too high and he couldn't stay at 140.

            Zab - Sorry but Zab still lost to Baldomir. It showed that at 147, Zab would be an average fighter at best. Think about it, who did Zab beat at 147?

            Baldomir - No matter how you put it, baldomir was not a good fighter. You unknowingly discreditted baldomir by saying Zab should have beat the lowly Baldomir.

            Oscar - Roach knew by seeing the Floyd fight that Oscar didn't have it anymore. "Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore". Also, by then Oscar was more the promoter than the fighter. Plus, did you even see Oscar's prior fights before Floyd? Very average record.

            Hatton - Had one not so good fight at 147. Hatton was a 140 career fighter. Floyd, naturally fought him at 147. No contest! Oh, Hatton KOed Castillo at what weight? I thought so! Either way you look at it, Castillo was not the same Castillo by then.


            Marquez - The joke of all joke fights. marquez fighting above 135 for the very first time has to fight Floyd as his first opponent. When criticized after the fight, Floyd called it "just a tune up fight".


            Mosley - Even Floyd fans have all of a sudden agreed that Mosley, just months after the Floyd fight, is SHOT and
            OLD.

            By the way, since I do not see Floyd fighting again this year, it will be 4 years and Floyd only has Hatton, Marquez and old Mosley to show for.

            Time to come out of your vacation Floyd!

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            • packyeow
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              #46
              oh yeah? just get it on already. Stop the yapping and sign the papers....hmmm can it be that mayweather is waiting for pacquiao to show signs of aging before he does? what does that make of your arguments bro.

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                #47
                De La Hoya: Shot, past-prime fighter fighting at a weight he hadn't made in 7 years. Drained and totally a shadow of his former self vs Pacquiao. He wasn't physically capable of making any adjustments to even win a single round in their fight.

                Ricky Hatton: ****** decision to change trainers so late on in his career and then attempt to incorporate certain Mayweather nuances in his game. Never attempted to change his style, came in head first and got his ass dropped.

                Miguel Cotto: Overrated fighter and was never really that good. Folds under pressure and lacks the ability to make any adjustments in his game - won a close decision to Clottey, and it wasn't because he made a late rally to snatch the win, it was just that Clottey is a choke artist who throws away fights.

                Joshua Clottey: Average fighter who always finds a way to lose. Made no attempt to make an impact in the fight with Pacquiao and was just another hypejob fight with Cowboys Stadium playing the main protagonist in this HBO fraud special.

                Antonio Margarito: Cheat. Fraud. Should never have been given the opportunity to fight again. Got his ass handed to him by Mosley in a much more brutal fashion then Pac ever did. His one + year lay-off and fight with Garcia proved he was past-prime. Besides a single fluke bodyshot, he showed nothing in the fight to suggest he deserved to be there.


                Pacquiao is a fraud who continues to duck the best fighter of his era. HBO FRAUD.

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                • Espada
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                  #48
                  Floyd ducked all of those Pac fought . Just accept the fact and wait in 2020, Maybe Floyd can get the fighter of the decade. Just understand that Floyd is number 2 that is very questionable. Martinez is more deserving on the number 2 spot.

                  Floyd cheats the weight on a 135 pounder, FOught the best of the era Baldomir rather than Cotto and Margarito.

                  Floyd retired when Cotto and Margarito where dominating 147. Now Pacquiao is dominating Floyd took a vacation again.

                  FLoyd let Hatton moved up to 147 where he was ineffective when we all know Floyd cheated the weight on Marquez.
                  Last edited by Espada; 11-24-2010, 11:13 PM.

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                  • packyeow
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Stones!
                    De La Hoya: Shot, past-prime fighter fighting at a weight he hadn't made in 7 years. Drained and totally a shadow of his former self vs Pacquiao. He wasn't physically capable of making any adjustments to even win a single round in their fight.

                    Ricky Hatton: ****** decision to change trainers so late on in his career and then attempt to incorporate certain Mayweather nuances in his game. Never attempted to change his style, came in head first and got his ass dropped.

                    Miguel Cotto: Overrated fighter and was never really that good. Folds under pressure and lacks the ability to make any adjustments in his game - won a close decision to Clottey, and it wasn't because he made a late rally to snatch the win, it was just that Clottey is a choke artist who throws away fights.

                    Joshua Clottey: Average fighter who always finds a way to lose. Made no attempt to make an impact in the fight with Pacquiao and was just another hypejob fight with Cowboys Stadium playing the main protagonist in this HBO fraud special.

                    Antonio Margarito: Cheat. Fraud. Should never have been given the opportunity to fight again. Got his ass handed to him by Mosley in a much more brutal fashion then Pac ever did. His one + year lay-off and fight with Garcia proved he was past-prime. Besides a single fluke bodyshot, he showed nothing in the fight to suggest he deserved to be there.


                    Pacquiao is a fraud who continues to duck the best fighter of his era. HBO FRAUD.
                    a Christian at heart, Pacquiao is the best but most humane fighter. Never a cheater. Never! pure sportsman. pure gentleman. Great but humble. Owes everything to God and excellent training. Wants to entertain. Fights not just for himself but for his audience. Willing to get hurt to please fans. Quickest, most active power puncher. No drugs. No bulk (unlike your American dopers - Bonds? Mcguire? Clemens? A-rod?). Pacquiao, pure speed and muscle. God -given physique -- long arms, large fist, powerful legs.

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                    • M.I.C.
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Espada
                      Floyd ducked all of those Pac fought . Just accept the fact and wait in 2020, Maybe Floyd can get the fighter of the decade. Just understand that Floyd is number 2 that is very questionable. Martinez is more d eserving on the number 2 spot.

                      Floyd cheats the weight on a 135 pounder, FOught the best of the era Baldomir rather than Cotto and Margarito.

                      Floyd retired when Cotto and Margarito where dominating 147. Now Pacquiao is dominating Floyd took a vacation again.
                      So losing to Paul Williams, drawing with Kermit Cintron, and being stopped by Margarito makes him #2 P4P?

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