a response:Martinez is NOT almost the EXACT same size as Margarito

[pistol whip]

You just said he's jmw champ.

Martinez will make 154. Trust me.



So he can't defend his title against a guy who can and WOULD make 154 to fight him?

Which is it?

Thats all one big giant ***ing assumption that hes gonna make weight and if they can make the weight then why doesn't Martinez and Dibella come out and say it?

Seriously your entire opinion is based on an assumption while all the evidence points to Martinez not being able to make weight.

pretty ***ing ******!!!

[pistol whip]

He didn't struggle. He would gladly lose 3 more pounds to fight at 54 or even 55.




Clotty didn't, but Clottey has weighed close to 170 in past fights at WW.




Martinez failed to make weight against someone? When did this happen?



Pac can come in at 144 while letting Martinez come in at 154 for the JMW title.

Lol!!! He failed to make weight for the Williams fight the contract weight was 157 he came in half a pound over that ****** moron!

and as far as 144 vs 154 what if martinez can't make the weight like him and his promoter said?????????????????????????????????????????

[Bastian Loc]

Thats all one big giant ***ing assumption that hes gonna make weight and if they can make the weight then why doesn't Martinez and Dibella come out and say it?

Seriously your entire opinion is based on an assumption while all the evidence points to Martinez not being able to make weight.

pretty ***ing ******!!!

Considering he just fought Cintron at 154 only last year, I"m pretty sure its not that big of a stretch, especially for the kind of money the fight would generate.

Lol!!! He failed to make weight for the Williams fight the contract weight was 157 he came in half a pound over that ****** moron!

and as far as 144 vs 154 what if martinez can't make the weight like him and his promoter said?????????????????????????????????????????

They said the catchweight was 158.

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[jrosales13]

Jack, you should post like this more often...

Making a lot of great points

[pistol whip]

Considering he just fought Cintron at 154 only last year, I"m pretty sure its not that big of a stretch, especially for the kind of money the fight would generate.




They said the catchweight was 158.

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I give you the catchweight, I thought the weight was 157. But he didnt fight Kermit just last year he fought Cintron feb 14th 2009 which is closer to two years ago. Almost a year and 10 months ago to be exact. He weighed 157 1/2 for the first Williams fight, 159 1/2 for the pavlik fight and 1571/2 for the second williams fight and he complained about it the entire time that he had to fight at a catch weight. So by the time he fights pac it will be over two years since he last fought at 154 which makes your entire assumption weaker than Sergio martinez would be if he was able to fight pac at 154

Again you're still assuming that he can make the weight if so why are dibella and Sergio himself talking their way out of it by only agreeing to fight in the middleweight divisions when its clear that pac is not intrested in fighting someone with a 20 pound advantage.

[borikua]

That ***** got me on ignore too.

[LoadedWraps]

Martinez will give Pac problems if they did meet at any weight, Pac has not fought a boxer that wasn't on the downhill in a long time. Maravilla is very fast and a skilled southpaw. At least Pac would fight Martinez though, unlike Money..

[Bastian Loc]

I give you the catchweight, I thought the weight was 157. But he didnt fight Kermit just last year he fought Cintron feb 14th 2009 which is closer to two years ago. Almost a year and 10 months ago to be exact. He weighed 157 1/2 for the first Williams fight, 159 1/2 for the pavlik fight and 1571/2 for the second williams fight and he complained about it the entire time that he had to fight at a catch weight. So by the time he fights pac it will be over two years since he last fought at 154 which makes your entire assumption weaker than Sergio martinez would be if he was able to fight pac at 154

Again you're still assuming that he can make the weight if so why are dibella and Sergio himself talking their way out of it by only agreeing to fight in the middleweight divisions when its clear that pac is not intrested in fighting someone with a 20 pound advantage.

If Pac offers him a fight at 154 and Sexy says he can't make it, you win.

But I think he would make it.

[Bastian Loc]

Jack, you should post like this more often...

Making a lot of great points

Its more fun posting the other way.

[INCOGNIT0]

So Pac can just let Sergio come in at 157 and Pac can come in at 150-154...whichever catch weight of choice ..
He can give up that weight like Floyd did against DLH..
Surely if Fraud can do it...Pac can.....