Tim Austin was batamweight champion from 1997-2003 and the bestfighter in that division. Was undefeated with 10 title fights.
Mark Johnson was flyweight and super fly weight champion from 1996- 2004 and was also a great chamion. Its obvious Manny avoided therse fighters.
Do some research on boxing before you post ****** ****. Not to mention you had junior jones, Guzman(AA style) **** even Gainer, and Kelley were there, and those fighters are far from BORING.
...im not black by the way incase you want to bring up the race card towards me.
i didnt even mention the fact that Pacquiao fought david ****ing diaz for the paper bellt, and avoided the best fighters in casamayor, and cambell(AA)
Pacquiao also has Alexander, and Bradley on his plate now, because those two are making noise
Originally posted by bombshell
hopkins speaks to his fellow black collegue with the same bussiness gbp...why he didn't mention berto which is one of top welterweights...which is more exciting to watch...
Tim Austin was batamweight champion from 1997-2003 and the bestfighter in that division. Was undefeated with 10 title fights.
Pacquiao never made bantamweight. He was stuck with a title in the lower divisions to defend and drained himself completely to make weight a couple fights too many. Mayweather would have lost a lot more in the amateurs had he kept himself at that weight at the same age Pacquiao was.
Mark Johnson was flyweight and super fly weight champion from 1996- 2004 and was also a great chamion. Its obvious Manny avoided therse fighters.
Do some research on boxing before you post ****** ****.
Pacquiao became flyweight champion in December 1998. Johnson's last flyweight fight was in September 1998 before he had to move up in weight. Pacquiao was stuck with the title (a lineal one at that for beating Sasakul) for the next year until he couldn't make weight anymore and skipped super flyweight and bantamweight altogether after he didn't make weight and lost to Singsurat.
Not to mention you had junior jones, Guzman(AA style) **** even Gainer, and Kelley were there, and those fighters are far from BORING.
...im not black by the way incase you want to bring up the race card towards me.
You're going to build a case against Pacquiao for fighting the Mexican trio (Barrera, Morales, Marquez) instead of Junior Jones? Gainer lost to Marquez and Chris John. Kelley as in Kevin Kelley? Are you serious? And are you really going to get in Pcquiao's face about moving up in weight to fight bigger guys for bigger money instead of Joan Guzman?
Tim Austin was batamweight champion from 1997-2003 and the bestfighter in that division. Was undefeated with 10 title fights.
Mark Johnson was flyweight and super fly weight champion from 1996- 2004 and was also a great chamion. Its obvious Manny avoided therse fighters.
Do some research on boxing before you post ****** ****. Not to mention you had junior jones, Guzman(AA style) **** even Gainer, and Kelley were there, and those fighters are far from BORING.
...im not black by the way incase you want to bring up the race card towards me.
very true man good **** but you know the *******s dont really care about facts they just care about what they believe to be true
Pacquiao never made bantamweight. He was stuck with a title in the lower divisions to defend and drained himself completely to make weight a couple fights too many. Mayweather would have lost a lot more in the amateurs had he kept himself at that weight at the same age Pacquiao was.
Pacquiao became flyweight champion in December 1998. Johnson's last flyweight fight was in September 1998 before he had to move up in weight. Pacquiao was stuck with the title (a lineal one at that for beating Sasakul) for the next year until he couldn't make weight anymore and skipped super flyweight and bantamweight altogether after he didn't make weight and lost to Singsurat.
You're going to build a case against Pacquiao for fighting the Mexican trio (Barrera, Morales, Marquez) instead of Junior Jones? Gainer lost to Marquez and Chris John. Kelley as in Kevin Kelley? Are you serious? And are you really going to get in Pcquiao's face about moving up in weight to fight bigger guys for bigger money instead of Joan Guzman?
didnt gainer loose because he fell out of the ring
they can twist all the facts all they want but name me one active AA fighter right now who has a better RESUME than manny...all these AA fighters right now are good at is MOUTHING OFF BULLCRAP AFTER BULLCRAP but when the BELL RINGS they clinch run clinch run...what a waste of time to watch...lets face it AFRICAN AMERICAN STYLES ARE BORING...i woudn't be caught shouting at the top of my lungs seeing floyd run and potshot all night or bernard hopkins clinching his way to victory...
You're a freaking idiot along with trainhard_187 that seem to only post in Mayweather/Pacquiao threads.
How exactly are African American styles boring lol? I never knew all African Americans fought alike. You should really watch earlier fights of Floyd Mayweather and B-Hop before mouthing off with silly comments.
Mosley is not a slick black boxer and Berto would get destroyed by Pac. There is not black fighter that can beat Pacquaio in this era including mayweather.
Tim Austin was batamweight champion from 1997-2003 and the bestfighter in that division. Was undefeated with 10 title fights.
Mark Johnson was flyweight and super fly weight champion from 1996- 2004 and was also a great chamion. Its obvious Manny avoided therse fighters.
Do some research on boxing before you post ****** ****. Not to mention you had junior jones, Guzman(AA style) **** even Gainer, and Kelley were there, and those fighters are far from BORING.
...im not black by the way incase you want to bring up the race card towards me.
The Same Tim Austin that got destroyed by 16-7 Erik Aiken yeah Im sure he was on Pacs level after also getting clobbered in 8 rounds against Rafael Marquez.
Junior ***ing jones hasn't had a fight since 2002 when Pac and roach were Barely training together. Pac wasn't even with top rank yet for *** sake.
Kevin kelly had already been knocked into ***ing oblivion by Hamed in 97 and Morales in 2000 by the time Pac started fighting in the Featherweight division in 2003.
Speaking of Marquez Mark Johnson was getting beat by Rafael marquez as a Bantam weight twice in a row when manny was barely even training with Roach in 2002 so yeah just drudging up any old black fighter isn't gonna cut it here.
The truth is a lot of these fights didn't happen not because Pac was ducking anyone but because when these actual fighters were worth a *** Pac had no ***ing promoter. Stop acting like Roach and Top Rank courted pac straight out of the Amature's. None of these fights could have ever been made until 2002 when pac actually had a promoter and a trainer sheesh!!!
Guzman you mean the same guzman who struggled against a very ordinary Ali Funeka oh yeah hes dangerous LOL!!!
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