Would Manny's excuses and dodging random OST fly in ANY other sport?

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  • Ryannn
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    #31
    Originally posted by Great Afrikan
    These guys were punished just for dodging or impending the test.

    1.England football captain of Man United was once banned for 8 months by FIFA for not being available

    2.Michael Rasmussen whilst leading the Tour De France with 4 stages left was kicked off his team because he couldnt explain his whereabouts 5 months prior

    3.Portuguess National football coach Carlos Queroz, is currently serving a six month ban for not allowing WADA officials to test his players, was also fired.

    NB. In any other sport, Manny Pacquai wouldnt be allowed to compete.
    did the test they dodge was requested by the commision/governing body or their opponents?

    did the test they take was the norm for the sport? and if it wasn't, what was the reason they have to take the test?

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    • Steven Adams
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      #32
      theres a freddie roach drug test as well the other week.


      thats what I heard

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      • Great Afrikan
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        #33
        Originally posted by SugarRayRob
        you're obviously a ******/troll but i'll bite.

        No competitor in ANY sport has the right to force another athelete to do anything outside the implemented rules set by the governing body/commision.
        I wont stoop to your level of insults but will respond to you.

        Unlike any other sport boxing doesnt have a unified body, so the Commission, Promoters and superstar boxers make up the rules....

        e.g. the rules say no one can fight for a world title unless ranked, yet both Pacman and Margarito fought for a 154 title.

        Isn't Manny Pacquaoi modifying the rules when he tells other boxers what they must weigh?

        PACMAN not the commision told Cotto to weigh 144, then told Margarito to weigh 150. He, not the commision also demanded that Floyd pay a million for a every pound over the 147 limit.

        In turn, Floyd only requested a thorough random test not endorsed by the commision.

        As you can see by the above points, Manny Pacquaio has been modifying the rules more than any other boxer today.

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        • BoZz
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          #34
          the answer is no but with bob arum and the fights being 99% between top rank fighters they can do w/e they want.

          he's scared of floyd and he knows that he would get exposed ..first with the blood test second with being a shi*** fighter.

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          • Great Afrikan
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            #35
            Originally posted by Ryannn
            did the test they dodge was requested by the commision/governing body or their opponents?

            did the test they take was the norm for the sport? and if it wasn't, what was the reason they have to take the test?
            Stop hiding behind the commision when boxers make up the rules.

            It was Manny not the commision who requested that Cotto and Margarito both come under the max limit of their weight divisions.

            The commision say max is 147, Pacman says 144. Commision says Urine testing, Floyds says Random OST.
            Last edited by Great Afrikan; 11-23-2010, 03:02 AM.

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            • PAKYO
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              #36
              Originally posted by Mercedes Benz
              the answer is no but with bob arum and the fights being 99% between top rank fighters they can do w/e they want.

              he's scared of floyd and he knows that he would get exposed ..first with the blood test second with being a shi*** fighter.
              So who is on vacation again?

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                #37
                Originally posted by LMFAO
                If ANY other athlete were requested to take full random OST in ANY other sport would the same excuses Manny uses be legit if it were them using it?
                Well this is simple, and should end this topic, but it won't...

                In any other sport, the players don't make the rules. All and any player can suspect whatever they want, and can be vocal about it (it happened to Barry Bonds many times), but it will not change the process. Now I will not say change (cause they have so called made testing "tuffer"), but players do not control the process.

                Players don't make the rules (in any other sport).

                Now I understand this is boxing, and Floyd has brainwashed many as to his reasons for the test and what not...Also Pac has not helped his own case at all.

                But comparing this situation to other sports, is just plain ******! Other sports do not negotiate contracts for every game they are about to play, and add or subtract certain demands for the games. Simply put, the drug testing measures that are in place for that sport, is the testing that the players subscibe to. You can not compare this situation to any other sport, and if you choose to, then Floyd has to be wrong in your eyes, and should let the commision do their job...Correct?

                ****** topic, and ****** question.

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                • Ryannn
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Great Afrikan
                  I wont stoop to your level of insults but will respond to you.

                  Unlike any other sport boxing doesnt have a unified body, so the Commission, Promoters and superstar boxers make up the rules....

                  e.g. the rules say no one can fight for a world title unless ranked, yet both Pacman and Margarito fought for a 154 title.

                  Isn't Manny Pacquaoi modifying the rules when he tells other boxers what they must weigh?

                  PACMAN not the commision told Cotto to weigh 144, then told Margarito to weigh 150. He, not the commision also demanded that Floyd pay a million for a every pound over the 147 limit.

                  In turn, Floyd only requested a thorough random test not endorsed by the commision.

                  As you can see by the above points, Manny Pacquaio has been modifying the rules more than any other boxer today.
                  no one is amending the rules.

                  there is nothing in the rule book that prohibits one fighter in asking for additional tests or ask for a catch weight.

                  the thing is, the tests that floyd is asking for was deemed to present additional unnecessary risks for boxer by the commission, who was supposed to handle the issue in the first place. why should someone take the additional risks when other boxers are only taking the sanctioned tests? if pacquiao has a history of cheating, then there can be some argument. but he doesn't.

                  i agree that better testing should be implemented. but not by one fighter picking who has to take the tests.

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                  • Ryannn
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Great Afrikan
                    Stop hiding behind the commision when boxers make up the rules.

                    It was Manny not the commision who requested that Cotto and Margarito both come under the max limit of their weight divisions.

                    The commision say max is 147, Pacman says 144. Commision says Urine testing, Floyds says Random OST.
                    who asked for those athletes to take the tests? was it a governing body? or their opponent who suspects them of cheating?

                    can you answer this please?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by nelsoncm
                      No fighter should deny any kind of drug testing, provided it is requested by the commission, not by an individual who runs his mouth to hide his fear.
                      Call his bluff.

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