Why Arent Mexicans and Hispanics Pissed?
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There ain't no honor in taking punches, African Americans from what I can see are not into moral victories, it is ******ed to stand there taking punishment. You think Jeff Lacy gets props for taking 12 rounds of abuse from Calzage? Even Roy Jones in his latter career is not celebrated for taking punishment. Hit and don't get hit is what earns respect for African American fighters.
You are right Jeff lacy and Roy Jones arnt celebrated, but Muhammed Ali is! The Rumble in the Jungle? The thrilla in manilla? The ass whipping he took from Ken Norton? You forget the tremndous beating he took in those fights which ultimatly lead to his parkinsons. Unless you are gonna call Ali ****** for allowing Forman to wind up and club his ass with punishing shots over and over again then you my friend are nothing more than a grade A hypocrite. We can all agree that it was Ali's heart even when Ken Norton broke his ***ing jaw and beat him we still admired his will to fight on. Thats what makes him so beloved among boxing fans despite being a big mouth, shhiitt talking racist. It was his will and his heart that endeered him to everyone.Comment
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There ain't no honor in taking punches, African Americans from what I can see are not into moral victories, it is ******ed to stand there taking punishment. You think Jeff Lacy gets props for taking 12 rounds of abuse from Calzage? Even Roy Jones in his latter career is not celebrated for taking punishment. Hit and don't get hit is what earns respect for African American fighters.Comment
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You are right Jeff lacy and Roy Jones arnt celebrated, but Muhammed Ali is! The Rumble in the Jungle? The thrilla in manilla? The ass whipping he took from Ken Norton? You forget the tremndous beating he took in those fights which ultimatly lead to his parkinsons. Unless you are gonna call Ali ****** for allowing Forman to wind up and club his ass with punishing shots over and over again then you my friend are nothing more than a grade A hypocrite. We can all agree that it was Ali's heart even when Ken Norton broke his ***ing jaw and beat him we still admired his will to fight on. Thats what makes him so beloved among boxing fans despite being a big mouth, shhiitt talking racist. It was his will and his heart that endeered him to everyone.Last edited by M.I.C.; 11-22-2010, 01:43 PM.Comment
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It pisses me off that he's handpicking these guys and he's getting so much praise for it yes, but his time will come. Whether it'd be Mayweather, or Martinez that midget is gonna get what's coming to him. Either a one sided embarrassing fight, or a brutal KO.Comment
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Mexicans and Hispanics are more pissed at those who discredit them by saying Pac should have fought African Americans. During Pac's reign no AA is better than the Mexican warriors Pac faced. And the only AA who is as good as these Latino warriors is on vacation ducking Pac. No balls at all.Comment
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I guess my question to you would be how does it make you feel to see your African American Fighters con their way to the top? Not fighting top competition, weaseling out of fights, dropping belts instead of defending them, cherry picking fighters. I admit African American fighters are great and have established a history of HoF credentials. But lately???
PBF- Do we need to even go there?
Berto- No top comp to speak of
P-Will- trying to starve his big a** frame to fight at 147
Hopkins- Ducking Dawson for years
Jones Jr- ducked the best for years for no good reason. He wouldv'e crushed 99% of the comp he ducked
Dirrell- pulling out of the Ward fight with a phony injury
Nate Campbell- weaseling a no contest out of the beatdown Bradley gave him
Not to mention the K-Bros making a legacy of whooping on African American fighters just like Manny has hispanics. How's that make you feel as an African American knowing how great your past has been in that division once upon a time? My guess is you don't care. Neither do Hispanics.
Look I'm just saying.... At least Hispanics are stepping up to the plate, yes in part for the pay day but also for a chance to be great by dethroning the current P4P king.Comment
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How do you guys sit back and watch Team Roach handpick all of your once proud warriors for Pac to run through? How many more Mexicans are going to sign the weight drain no OST contract then show up on fight night with that zombie look in the eyes? For a culture and people so prideful of their boxing heritage Team Roach and Arum have made a mockery out of you.
Though some like to point out Clottey is African not Mexican, truth Is he held his own and was not nearly the victim Mexicans/Hispanics and Hatton have been. If anything he let himself down by not throwing punches, Pac really could do nothing with him. But back to the point, Mexicans have always been proud fighters but how do you maintain respect when the boxing world has developed an industry aimed at feeding Pac Mexican food? Does it suck to gather each year to watch Pac embarass your best fighters?
During the days of Chavez Mexicans wouldn't have stood for this kind of sh-t, people respected Mexicans fighters then, now Mexican warrior is synonymous with Pac meat.
Its Oscar DelaHoya that's setting up these fixed fights, weight-drained zombies, etc.
Oscar is mad that the Mexican fans had disrespected him throughout his career, since when he first fought Julio Cesar Chavez in 1996, during the pre-fight conferences in his Los Angeles "backyard", the local fans (his very own), boo'd him cause he was fighting Chavez.
So, now, that Oscar is "in control" he tries to make Mexico look bad by setting-up loses for their Mexican great fighters.
Oscar "pulls strings" for non-Mexican fighters like Pac, Mosley, Hopkins, and backstabs his own fighters like Barrera, Marquez, and prevented Humberto Soto from getting the big fights and exposure.
But the way I see it, its more like Affirmitive Action, that is the reason the Mexican fighters are not in the spotlight now.
Mexican fighters are usually the toughest best fighters on the planet, and the most dominant.
But, these promoters, and boxing authorities (HBO, Alphabett Oraganiztions, etc,) want to globalize boxing and bring in foreign money, so they have to let cheaters like Pac adn Mosley get away with EPO Steroids uses and give fake performances, so as to bring in their asian/black fans' money into boxing.
Thats why Humberto Soto's career is being stalled by Arum and Oscar , so that Pac can make it in boxing.
Thats why Antonio Margarito was suspended and Oscar and Arun helped Mosley use EPO steroids, so that Mosley can score big with the black community and bring in black money, because there are not many black great fighters as there were generations ago.
Thats why Alfredo Angulo was deported and HBO wont televise his fights anymore, cause they dont want another Mexican to dominate the 147lbs division.
They want guys like Cotto, Berto to "shine".
Affirmitive Action, for non-Mexicans.
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It bothers me as I'm sure it bothers most Mexican's but what can we do? These guys are offered big money that they can't make anywhere else. Besides, the guys he's fighting have no chance at any big money fights as they are mostly shot, you can't blame them for wanting one last big payday.
There is nothing anybody can do but not pay for these fights which is what I have chosen to do. I was outraged that Pacquiao signed to fight Margarito and I did not pay for it but watched it later for free.Comment
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