Martinez, counter punchers and rematches

[Toney616]

As a general rule, do counter punchers tend to do better in rematches?

Sergio Martinez:
Williams I L 12
Williams II: w ko 2

Antonio Tarver:
Jones I L 12
Jones II W ko 2
Jones III W 12

Bernard Hopkins:
Mercado I D
Mercado II W ko 7

Thoughts please

[check hook]

As a general rule, do counter punchers tend to do better in rematches?

Sergio Martinez:
Williams I L 12
Williams II: w ko 2

Antonio Tarver:
Jones I L 12
Jones II W ko 2
Jones III W 12

Bernard Hopkins:
Mercado I D
Mercado II W ko 7

Thoughts please

As a general rule....yes i think they do. Counter punchers look to figure the opponent out. Specifically what patterns they have, what punches they throw and importantly what angle the punches are coming from and where the opponents feet are. Once a counter puncher figures out the opponents pattern and where the punches are coming from it's generally over.

This is why i think counter-punchers tend to start slowly. Think JMM and Mayweather. Think about Mayweather vs Castillo, Floyd's only rematch. Or think about it this way.....if Floyd rematched Shane, Oscar, Hatton, Judah and JMM straight after he beat them do you envisage him doing better and dominating even more?? I do.

[Anti~Jalandoni]

As a general rule, do counter punchers tend to do better in rematches?

Sergio Martinez:
Williams I L 12
Williams II: w ko 2

Antonio Tarver:
Jones I L 12
Jones II W ko 2
Jones III W 12

Bernard Hopkins:
Mercado I D
Mercado II W ko 7

Thoughts please

In most cases, Yes

[Toney616]

As a general rule....yes i think they do. Counter punchers look to figure the opponent out. Specifically what patterns they have, what punches they throw and importantly what angle the punches are coming from and where the opponents feet are. Once a counter puncher figures out the opponents pattern and where the punches are coming from it's generally over.

This is why i think counter-punchers tend to start slowly. Think JMM and Mayweather. Think about Mayweather vs Castillo, Floyd's only rematch. Or think about it this way.....if Floyd rematched Shane, Oscar, Hatton, Judah and JMM straight after he beat them do you envisage him doing better and dominating even more?? I do.

Solid post, green K sent

off topic: did you watch that Tyson vid?

[DoktorSleepless]

It didn't work out for Quintana.

[cleaner147]

no, you just picked some famous fights where it looks like that to prove your curious rule. LMFO

[Toney616]

no, you just picked some famous fights where it looks like that to prove your curious rule. LMFO

Thanks for the valuable contribution. You did notice I posed it as a question, never stated it as a fact?

[Mr. Philadel]

As a general rule....yes i think they do. Counter punchers look to figure the opponent out. Specifically what patterns they have, what punches they throw and importantly what angle the punches are coming from and where the opponents feet are. Once a counter puncher figures out the opponents pattern and where the punches are coming from it's generally over.

This is why i think counter-punchers tend to start slowly. Think JMM and Mayweather. Think about Mayweather vs Castillo, Floyd's only rematch. Or think about it this way.....if Floyd rematched Shane, Oscar, Hatton, Judah and JMM straight after he beat them do you envisage him doing better and dominating even more?? I do.

I agree 100%.....I also believe B.Hop would've beaten Calzaghe in a rematch

[check hook]

Solid post, green K sent

off topic: did you watch that Tyson vid?

Not yet, sorry bro. Will get to it at some stage. Cheers for the link.

[mathed]

Counter punchers are better observers and can make adjustments in the ring. Martinez is a smart fighter too...