If Pac fights AND beats Martinez, he is #1 ATG

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  • Bastian Loc
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    #21
    Originally posted by dj ♥
    at the real weight yes, knowing roach it will be at like 153 and that is unacceptable.
    These aren't the droids you're looking for. Don't make me have you re-educated.

    Agree with me or else.

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    • Bastian Loc
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      #22
      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
      153 is NOT fair. It's absurd.

      Here's what I don't understand...Pac doesn't HAVE to weigh more. He should just fight at his optimal fighting weight and not worry about packing on muscle.

      If a catchweight is really that necessary, which is ******ed, 155 is the lowest it should be.
      This is true. Pac could come in at 145 like always and just try to continue to overachieve, like he always does.

      If he beats Sergio now, he's p4p ATG 1.

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      • *El Prieto*
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        #23
        Originally posted by JoeKickAss
        What's the catchweight?
        LOL.

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          #24
          Originally posted by savorduhflavor
          153 is NOT fair. It's absurd.

          Here's what I don't understand...Pac doesn't HAVE to weigh more. He should just fight at his optimal fighting weight and not worry about packing on muscle.

          If a catchweight is really that necessary, which is ******ed, 155 is the lowest it should be.
          I agree with the bold. I'd forgive Pacquiao imposing a 157, 156 catchweight, but it really shouldn't be any lower than that.


          I mean, the difficulty is the whole point of the challenge. Bringing Segio down to below the JMW limit just negates a big part of that.


          Floyd should fight Sergio at middleweight straight-up. Or 158 at the lowest.

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            #25
            Originally posted by American Dream
            okay..*******s are losing it..
            so lemme get this straight...
            if Pac (or any fighter for that matter) beats Sergio..he is #1 ATG, because Sergio is just that great..that a win over him would push Pac to the top of the list...is that it?
            Its like this

            IF pac fought Martinez at 160 and beat him. Pac would become the Lineal Champion and the absolute best at 160 dating from Hopkins UNIFIED Title before yielding it to Taylor.

            That would be Pac's 5th Lineal title if it happens

            FLYWEIGHT( Sasakul )
            FEATHERWEIGHT ( Barrera )
            Jr LIGHTWEIGHT ( Marquez )
            Jr. WELTERWEIGHT ( Hatton )
            MIDDLEWEIGHT ()


            With that said. PAC is too Small and has a great chance at losing if the fight is at 160.

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            • dj Ramos
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              #26
              Originally posted by INJECT
              These aren't the droids you're looking for. Don't make me have you re-educated.

              Agree with me or else.
              I cant believe your really accepting catchweights now, 153 for Martinez? Sorry jack but gtfo with that ****.

              I hope you didnt become a ******* all of a sudden now.


              Pacquiao vs Martinez under 156 is unacceptable, i dont think Sergio can make 154 but im not 100% sure.




              If you fruit cups want a REAL fight no catchweight gay ****, real warriors going toe to toe action then hear this.

              Sergio Martinez vs El Gran Vaca de Dinero

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              • miron_lang
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                #27
                Originally posted by MAN IN WHITE
                I agree with the bold. I'd forgive Pacquiao imposing a 157, 156 catchweight, but it really shouldn't be any lower than that.
                I agree. Its either he take that risk or just fight Welterweights or Jr Welterweights.

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                • Bastian Loc
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by miron_lang
                  Its like this

                  IF pac fought Martinez at 160 and beat him. Pac would become the Lineal Champion and the absolute best at 160 dating from Hopkins UNIFIED Title before yielding it to Taylor.

                  That would be Pac's 5th Lineal title if it happens

                  FLYWEIGHT( Sasakul )
                  FEATHERWEIGHT ( Barrera )
                  Jr LIGHTWEIGHT ( Marquez )
                  Jr. WELTERWEIGHT ( Hatton )
                  MIDDLEWEIGHT ()


                  With that said. PAC is too Small and has a great chance at losing if the fight is at 160.
                  Exactly, this is why this is a win win for him. If he loses he has a built in legitimate excuse that nobody will question because its such a daring move.

                  They'll say "at least Pac reached for the stars, something Fraud is too much of a fraud coward to even attempt without blood testing"

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                  • MACAQUEINBLACK
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                    #29
                    One thing's for sure, and it's that Margarito doesn't need a Sergio rematch. He'd get trashed at this stage, they don't really belong in a ring together, even though I think Margarito is still decent.

                    Cotto rematch is the way to go for Tony.

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                    • dj Ramos
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by INJECT
                      This is true. Pac could come in at 145 like always and just try to continue to overachieve, like he always does.

                      If he beats Sergio now, he's p4p ATG 1.
                      Right but the issue is, they will ask for a catchweight like at 153 and demand Martinez's belt.

                      Un-****ing-acceptable.

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