Lack Of Respect For Sugar Shane!!!

[michaeldokes]

Mosley hasn't won in a couple of years, and wasn't competitive and was lethargic in the fights that followed.

Margarito wasn't 100% in both frame of mind and physically, and before that, he needed the spirit of Jesus to beat Mayorga.

The last time he looked good, was against the Cotto fight. Its over, Shane is doing nothing but embarrassing himself right now

Hatton got stretched by Mayweather. He got a Pac fight. Margo was assaulted by Mosley. This not in the right frame of mind stuff is horse crap. Every fight has a different dynamic. You need to go out and perform. Shane whoops Margos ass everyday a week and twice on Sundays. He could have been 52 and he still would whoop his ass.

Mayweather would have beat Shane if Shaen was in his prime. Didn't matter. It would have been closer, but Mayweather's Style beats Shane's style. I think stylistically Pac_Mosley would a good match-up. Pac would probably stop him late, but Mosley could test him. Berto would be no test and would offer no resistance. Mosley is at least a 1st ballot hall of famer with a world class chin, and world class punch. He is live in any fight.

[JmH Reborn]

i think shane should get a shot at Pac. Shane's about to retire and he deserves another big payday

How many "big paydays" does this dude "deserve". He's fought Oscar 2x, Cotto, Mayweather, Margarito, Vargas 2x

I mean ****, all he's ever done was fight big names for big paydays, and hasn't done anything to improve his stature. He doesn't deserve anything

[paulf]

This winning fight stuff is overrated. Give Mosley Juan Urango and Freddy Hernandez. He got waxed by Mayweather...no shame there. He was the 1st real person to have him hurt. He outworked Mora, but got shamed on a decision. Mora is a middleweight who would have given Mosley trouble in 2003, 04,05,06. It was just a bad style fight. Terrible matchmaking.

Give Mosley a Freddy Hernandez fight and see what happens.

We seem to forget, everybody wrote Mosley off going into the Margo fight. He came out and won. Now I am not saying Mosley will be beat Pac. He won't. But nobody will. At least he can test him with his power. Berto will go out on a stretcher. No chin.

So let him win a fight with Berto or somebody so he can become a legit challenger to Pac. Kellerman said on the air right into the camera Saturday that Mosley was an "unacceptable opponent" for Pac. And he's right.

Pac needs to fight fresh blood, not fight a guy with six losses. Floyd, Bradley, Alexander, and Berto are the guys to be matched with. Mosley is yesterdays news until he proves otherwise.

[Pullcounter]

i respect mosley and think he gives pac a tough fight for 3-4 rounds, but he gotta atleast win 1-3 fights before I wanna see him fight pac.

I mean if mosley brutally KTFO mora, then maybe I could see a fight w/ pac.

[JmH Reborn]

Hatton got stretched by Mayweather. He got a Pac fight. Margo was assaulted by Mosley. This not in the right frame of mind stuff is horse crap. Every fight has a different dynamic. You need to go out and perform. Shane whoops Margos ass everyday a week and twice on Sundays. He could have been 52 and he still would whoop his ass.

Mayweather would have beat Shane if Shaen was in his prime. Didn't matter. It would have been closer, but Mayweather's Style beats Shane's style. I think stylistically Pac_Mosley would a good match-up. Pac would probably stop him late, but Mosley could test him. Berto would be no test and would offer no resistance. Mosley is at least a 1st ballot hall of famer with a world class chin, and world class punch. He is live in any fight.

Boxing is a mind game just as much as a physical sport. That's why there's so much gamesmanship before fights. If you don't think the hand-wrap scandal as well as the fact that the dude was dehydrated and put on nearly no pounds didn't have an effect on Margarito, then I don't know what to tell you. He may not have won, but it would have been more competitive

I would feel better about a Pac-Mosley fight if Berto and Mosley popped off like originally planned, with the winner fighting Pac. Mosley wouldn't get past Berto IMO at this point

[michaeldokes]

If Alexander-Bradley winner gets a shot. Then it will be earned. Those 2 guys are going out trying to prove themselves. But for you people calling for Berto you are a bunch of fools.

The whole career of Andre Berto is cuddling joke. He is just like Michael Grant. In his entire career he has fought 1 top 10 welterweight. And he arguably lost the fight.(Luis Collazo) He was knocked down by a pedestrian fighter named Cosme Rivera. And now he is fighting a guy who lost to Golden Johnson. The same Golden Johnson who was crushed by Margo and Shane. I repeat GOLDEN JOHNSON.

Now Dan Rafael and others are trying to sell me this fight because Berto is 27 and Mosley is 39. The question you need to ask, would you rather fight a 'has been' and put that on your resume or would you rather fight a 'never was'

Berto has talent, but he needs to fight a top 10 welterweight before you fight the best fighter in the world.

People are down on Mosley because he jumps a division to fight a middleweight and loses to Floyd Mayweather Jr. arguable one of the great boxers of the last 50 years. It boggles my mind for the love affair for Berto. He will beat a guy this week who lost to Golden Johnson...Freddy Hernandez lost to Golden Johnson.

Andre Berto=Michael Grant...Pac-Berto=Lennox Lewis-Michael Grant.

[Rome-By-Ko]

It seems like nobody on this board has much respect for Sugar Shane. Granted Floyd made him look silly. But this last Mora fight was horsecrap and you can't take much away from it expect it was a bad fight and bad style.

While Pac beats everybody not named Mayweather or Martinez(he could maybe beat both but neither seems to be fighting him)

Sugar is not what he used to be, but he still carriers a world class chin and a world class punch. Plus he has been in big fights and his style is condusive to making a Pac fight exciting, with big exchanges.

Yet people want to see Berto. Berto has not fought anybody...He is fighting a guy this week who lost to Golden Johnson. I repeat GOLDEN JOHNSON. He got his world rocked by Cosme Rivera and was stunned by feather fisted Luis Collazo, a southpaw like Pac. Mosley whitewashed Collazo and he has been in there with the best of his era. Pac beats everybody, but Mosley is not as terrible an option as some give him creidt for. Mosley has been hot and cold since 2002. I remember everybody said he was shot back in 2005. Then in 2008 after Mayorga, and now after May whooped him. Mosley is not as shot as some may believe. He aint beating Pac...but it could be a good fight. A lot better then a Berto 1st round KO

Nobody here is saying Mosley will beat Pac. But I Mosley is better suited for a Pac fight. Better chin, better history in big fights.

Really don't have much to add,great post ya said it all..Not much respect for a dude who always is gonna put on a show or at least try too..The Mora fight was not his fault by any means..I would pay to see Pac vs Mosley because I know what I'll be getting with that fight..

[clmags12]

No disrespect to Shane, but his determining fight was the Mora fight. He needs to hang up his gloves while he still can. It showed his age..

While I cannot hate Shane for wanting to "prove" he still has it against Pac, he actually might get hurt.

Pac's next opponent should ONLY be Floyd, no other choices please. Floyd can choose between Pac and Sergio Martinez- and not be ridiculed.

[michaeldokes]

So let him win a fight with Berto or somebody so he can become a legit challenger to Pac. Kellerman said on the air right into the camera Saturday that Mosley was an "unacceptable opponent" for Pac. And he's right.

Pac needs to fight fresh blood, not fight a guy with six losses. Floyd, Bradley, Alexander, and Berto are the guys to be matched with. Mosley is yesterdays news until he proves otherwise.

If Pacquiao fight the winner of Bradley-Alexander then I am all for it. They will have proven against each other that either is worthy of a big fight.

But telling me this fresh blood crap is hogwash when comes to Berto. Berto has not beaten an top 50 pound for pound guy in his entire 27 fight career. And now you are telling me after he crushes a C minus fighter Freddy Hernandez that he is worthy of a Pacquiao fight. Berto is Michael Grant..and HBO manufactured fighter.

Mosley is not what he used to be, but he is a sure fire hall of famer who will bring it no matter the result.

Berto is a fighter who will get knocked out in the 1st or 2nd round against Pac. He has no chin..none. He is a flash in the pan.

Pacquiao should fight Mayweather...no dis*****g that at all. That is the fight we all want. But for people to argue Berto just simply because he is younger is horse crap. If Berto would have fought and beat someone of reason then I would say, go for it. But Berto has feasted on smaller guys. His only real step up in comp was against Collazo. Collazo almost knocked him out. Literally in the 1st round. If Pac had him hurt like that it would have been over. Heck Cosme Rivera almost knocked him.

I would rather Pacquiao fight Bradely-Alexander winner then Mosley. But Berto is the last person who should be fighting Pacquiao. I would rather JMM fight Pacquiao at 147 then Berto. Berto is not worthy, period!! He needs to fight someone in the top 10 to prove himself before he gets a shot at the big time. I am surprised most don't agree with that.

[michaeldokes]

One more thing. Mayweather seems to get no credit for beating Mosley. People write it off as Mosley being shot. Mosley whooped Margarito just as bad as Pac did.

Now I ain't saying Mosley is Pac good. He isn't. And I ain't saying I love Floyd, i think he is a damn fool. But Floyd is a damn great fighter. And so is Pac. And Mosley is a 1st ballot hall of famer who still carrys a world class chin and punch.

Like I said, Mayweather beats Mosley no matter what the year is. It would have been closer in 1998, but Mayweather still would have won. But Mosley is a great fighter too...no what he was, but on any given night a guy like Mosley could rise to the occassion.

Berto is 27 but he is and never will be Mosley good. Shane Mosley at 27 was a world beater and destroying everybody. Berto is getting dropped by c minus fighters and fighting even up with bottom tier top 20 welters. A 39 Mosley is better option for Pac, financially and competitively.