Vargas' maturity

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I want to see him get knocked the **** out. Not just beaten but knocked the **** out. Trying to demand 50/50 with Mayweather. Is he ****ing nuts?

Yeah it's so hard to watch him fight. He just clams up, Jab's when the guy comes in and throw's the occasional left. I'd love to see him fight a natural middleweight who is a good body puncher, then we'll see what He can do. I also think its funny how hes a natural righty, and he jabs with his right...funny **** man.

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You've fallen head over heels for Vargas. I like Vargas and I hate Winky with a passion, but Winky crushed Tito unlike Vargas that gave a valiant effort but lost the fight.

Winky and Vargas' handling of Tito says a lot. I didnt see Winky-Vargas but a lot of people say Winky won.

He beat him once, and can do it again in a different manner. This time outboxing the southpaw and pick and chosing power shots like he did earlier tonight.

[InThisCorner]

I want to see him get knocked the **** out. Not just beaten but knocked the **** out. Trying to demand 50/50 with Mayweather. Is he ****ing nuts?

IMO It's a lose-lose situation for Winky. If he wins he "beat up a little guy", if he loses he "lost to a little guy". should maybe even be 45/55.

[slavik18]

He beat him once, and can do it again in a different manner. This time outboxing the southpaw and pick and chosing power shots like he did earlier tonight.

I agree. In further news, Vargas get his jaw broken by a 37-year-old Spanish Man. Hilarity ensues.

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I agree. In further news, Vargas get his jaw broken by a 37-year-old Spanish Man. Hilarity ensues.

Humberto Aranda (3-0-0) TKO 6
Roger Benito Flores (11-8) Dec
Henry Castillo Dec
Cory Spinks Dec
Vernon Forrest Robbed
Felix Trinidad TKO 8

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[vB Martin]

If Vargas wants to extend his career, he needs some of the lessons that Danny Smith is teaching him. The problem is, Danny Smith is completely defensively minded. If he keeps Smith as his Chief Trainer, instead of Second where he belongs, Vargas isn't going to get any big paydays because he's boring as ****.

What's the point of extendng your career when you won't be able to put asses in seats? He needs to bank the defensive lessons and mix in enough of El Feroz to make it exciting.

[BBFM]

seriously though I blame danny smith for his broken jaw he needs to be more aggressive he had a dead man in the ring and im the biggest ****ing vargas fan on these forums hes fighting like a 40 year old in there hes 27 if he cant do **** he needs to retire.

[vB Martin]

seriously though I blame danny smith for his broken jaw he needs to be more aggressive he had a dead man in the ring and im the biggest ****ing vargas fan on these forums hes fighting like a 40 year old in there hes 27 if he cant do **** he needs to retire.

You have to cut him a little slack, though. I can understand after the beatings he took at the hands of Trinidad and DLH that he might be a little gunshy, but he better step up in his next fight or his big money dreams will remain dreams.

[Fareastwarrior]

I am afraid we won't see the Vargas of the old days anymore. He lost his agressions since his defeats and now with a new defensive trainer, we can forget to see brawls and blood. He will win his fights by UD.

[MrCoop]

If Vargas wants to extend his career, he needs some of the lessons that Danny Smith is teaching him. The problem is, Danny Smith is completely defensively minded. If he keeps Smith as his Chief Trainer, instead of Second where he belongs, Vargas isn't going to get any big paydays because he's boring as ****.

What's the point of extendng your career when you won't be able to put asses in seats? He needs to bank the defensive lessons and mix in enough of El Feroz to make it exciting.

Very true, but I think we'll start to see more offense the more the rust wears off. He had way more offense in this fight than against Joval & I believe he could have stopped Castillejo pretty easily but his corner didn't want him to. He did get in 10 quality rounds of boxin & that will help shake off the rust.