Don't hate on Williams. Hate on the press.

[mariobrotherpr]

I understand what you're saying but it just isn't true in my mind. He bought into and preached that hype as much as any media. Yelling about guys avoiding him while he was doing the same thing to other fighters.

I agree with you, but damn it should be very, very difficult to have the world compare you with Hearns, saying you are the greatest mutant thing to come into boxing since who knows what, and not getting your ego boosted.

Williams is good. Needs Steward. Has stamina, chin. Has HEART. He can be great but needs to stop believing the press calling him P4P. He is, still, a work in progress.

[Khmelnytsky]

I agree with you, but damn it should be very, very difficult to have the world compare you with Hearns, saying you are the greatest mutant thing to come into boxing since who knows what, and not getting your ego boosted.

Williams is good. Needs Steward. Has stamina, chin. Has HEART. He can be great but needs to stop believing the press calling him P4P. He is, still, a work in progress.

Guys like Pacquiao, Martinez, Klitschko's (in Europe) recieve just as much praise and don't have that type of arrogance. Seems like you're giving him a pass when he doesn't deserve one in my eyes. He is how he is and is accountable for it.

[paulf]

I like Williams. He comes to fight. But come on. He's got the commentators, journalists, press in general in his pocket. The HBO commentating team was collectively muted when he lost.

I wont argue with you there. I watched another stream, and when I saw the HBO broadcast I was like "Are these guys kidding??"

Manny Steward "Williams was fighting the perfect fight, doing everything right. Then just one punch out of nowhere changed the whole outcome"

Are they even watching the thing? Williams lost every minute of that fight.

[ATG Fighter]

I wont argue with you there. I watched another stream, and when I saw the HBO broadcast I was like "Are these guys kidding??"

Manny Steward "Williams was fighting the perfect fight, doing everything right. Then just one punch out of nowhere changed the whole outcome"

Are they even watching the thing? Williams lost every minute of that fight.

I gave the 1st round to Martinez. Williams landed more but I gave it based on clean and effective punching.

[Khmelnytsky]

I gave the 1st round to Martinez. Williams landed more but I gave it based on clean and effective punching.

Martinez landed some real hard lefts and towards the end of the 1st looked like he stunned Paul against the ropes with two flush shots. Did some nice body work too. Harold gave it to Sergio as did i, Manny is blind and bias when it comes to Williams.

[ma51f]

its only a loss, PW can come back from this.

[mariobrotherpr]

Guys like Pacquiao, Martinez, Klitschko's (in Europe) recieve just as much praise and don't have that type of arrogance. Seems like you're giving him a pass when he doesn't deserve one in my eyes. He is how he is and is accountable for it.

Yep. I am giving him a pass on his outlandish comments. He's a kid, not very mature, I might add, without much education who has thrown out there into the limelight to be worshipped. He can't even maintain a straight face when people worship him... he starts to smile! We can agree to disagree there.

[Check_hooks]

If Pwill fights behind the jab like Klitchko he would've beat Martinez easy. He wanted to put on a show and wasnt thinking about defense.

[Khmelnytsky]

Yep. I am giving him a pass on his outlandish comments. He's a kid, not very mature, I might add, without much education who has thrown out there into the limelight to be worshipped. He can't even maintain a straight face when people worship him... he starts to smile! We can agree to disagree there.

Again we will agree to disagree. He is immature and seems to have the mind of a child yes but is a grown man at 29 or 30 years old. Not an excuse.

[mariobrotherpr]

If Pwill fights behind the jab like Klitchko he would've beat Martinez easy. He wanted to put on a show and wasnt thinking about defense.

Don't know about that. Wlad has a lot of strength, in addition to leverage. Don't know if Paul has that kind of strength in his weight class. Doesn't look like it, IMHO.