Why did the ref start counting?

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  • zero188
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    #11
    The guy was not moving a fiber in his body, was out before he hit the deck; and yes he did see him go down. He put paul's life in danger by doing that.

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    • zero188
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      #12
      Originally posted by starjammer
      I think the KO shocked everyone, including the referee. Before he realised what was going on, he was probabaly giving the count on instincts alone.

      And that is why the ref is supposed to be proactive in there. I knew paul was gone from this dimension the second the punch hit him. I thought he was counting on instincs until i saw him pass 6 or 7; then it started getting dangerous.

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      • Uturn
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        #13
        Not sure what the ref was thinking at that point. Paul did have his eyes open though so maybe he thought there was a chance of him getting up?

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        • REMOVED SHARK 97
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          #14
          The rules of a TKO / KO are not very clear.

          When someone get's merked and is out cold and the ref stops it immediately then some consider it to be a TKO.

          Yet Bayless didn't count Ricky Hatton I don't think and that counted as a KO.

          Even though it's best for health and safety, I miss the days when a fighter was out cold and the ref counted to 10.

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          • Uturn
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            #15
            Originally posted by Akucapri
            The rules of a TKO / KO are not very clear.

            When someone get's merked and is out cold and the ref stops it immediately then some consider it to be a TKO.

            Yet Bayless didn't count Ricky Hatton I don't think and that counted as a KO.

            Even though it's best for health and safety, I miss the days when a fighter was out cold and the ref counted to 10.
            It looked very clear as soon as Paul landed on the canvas he was sleeping. His corner even ran in when the ref was counting Paul out lol..

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            • ChiTown2Diego
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              #16
              Even if he didn't see the punch he couldn't of missed seeing PW crumble face first onto the canvass. He couldn't of missed the, initially, motionless body and the blank stare. PW was on ice! The signs were there and the ref missed all of them. Even after finishing the count the ref stays on his knees seemingly concerned but probably also realizing the silliness of his administration of the count.

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              • Grimmer
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                #17
                It was a bad call. Williams wasn't rolling around or making any attempt to get up. He was laying there motionless, his eyes clearly stunned. He was typically out cold and in "no man's land" and the ref was right next to him looking at into his face, there's no way the ref should have misjudged that situation, it was a knockdown, it was a straight knockout.

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                • ~AK49~
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by zero188
                  All jokes aside, this is the second week in a row when the ref makes a terrible call that could have gotten a fighter seriously hurt. Margarito last week and now this? I knew paul wasnt going to wake up for another week as soon as i saw him start to go down. The ref made a huge mistake. In a situation like that, yes; ten seconds is a long time.
                  i can excuse the margarito fight. boxing is not a sport for women, *****es, crybabies, etc. its two trained men, usually with a lot of heart. especially in the case of margo, where it only takes one punch. margo had plenty of chances to back out with his eye, but he kept going...cause he wanted to. i think the ref did a good job in giving marg the opportunity to back out, and not making it obvious.

                  but in the case of pwill, yeah, their was no reason to count. he was out. it was kinda creepy how he was out with his eyes wide open, like he was dead.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Casual
                    It looked very clear as soon as Paul landed on the canvas he was sleeping. His corner even ran in when the ref was counting Paul out lol..
                    Heh when the ref got to 9, he quickly said 10 when the doctor came over.

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                    • Gonzalez_Boxing
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by zero188
                      The guy was not moving a fiber in his body, was out before he hit the deck; and yes he did see him go down. He put paul's life in danger by doing that.
                      Williams wasn't getting up. How did he put his life in danger?

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