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  • #41
    Disclosure: I am a white American.
    Lately, there's been more and more trying to put down Pac's accomplishments. Another item worth noting is that those discrediting Pacquiao are African-Americans. Look around (youtube and other sites). More aggressive postings from haters. I can sense that the insecurity button has been pushed. The insecurity that another African-American, someone who is suppose to be in the running for the No.1 P4P spot is being called out and appears to be dodging. So in return, as a defensive instinct, they resort to discrediting and finding ideas to make a case. B-hop's claim of Pacquiao avoiding African-Americans is an idiotic idea. The guy (Pacquiao) obviously wants the top breathing African-American there is today. But the so African-American is reluctant and has doubts in himself. Perhaps, he's picturing the faces of David Diaz, ODLH, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito. Never mind the savage beating that Ricky Hatton was able to avoid by dropping as early as round 2 or the broken orbital bone that Margarito suffered. I can really understand the reluctance, especially after claiming that he's the greatest, better that Ali and SRR. Can you imagine how much pressure that brings?

    I am an American and I see things the way it is. This country is known for integrity and calling things the way it is.

    Let's not fantasize and make arguments about Tim Bradley and Devon Alexander. They simply don't belong. Skills wise and PPV wise. Paul Williams? Too freakin big to be fair and honest, so don't even argue in that direction. Pacquiao even humbly admitted to receiving an equal beating from Margarito. That's like accusing Paul Williams of not fighting the K-bros even though he's not giving up too much in height and reach.

    Fact is - Floyd has doubts. Think about it. And be real.
    Floyd has not said a word since the Pac-Marg fight.
    Floyd was mute during the second negotiations. He waited for the "published" deadline to pass, a Pac-Marg contract signed and suddenly shows up saying "What negotiations"?. Made a liar out of everyone including all the HBO top executives. That was hilarious.
    Floyd said once that all Manny has to do is say "I want to fight Floyd Mayweather". That has been done a dozen times!!! Do I need to post links to prove it?

    You are witnessing a living legend and the sensible thing to do really is appreciate it. We all make mistakes and that's fine. I once rooted against Pacquiao until I became a believer. But you really have to give credit where credit is due. Hello! 8 titles in 8 weight classes! Are you listening? Do you understand? Regardless of whether he didn't beat the best in each weight class, but c'mon. 8 in 8. Are you listening? Can you remember when was the last time this was done? Be thankful it happened in your lifetime, given the opportunity to tell your grandchildren the story and bragging that you were there to witness it. Stop being a hater. PEACE!!!

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    • #42
      Originally posted by AmericanFighter View Post
      Disclosure: I am a white American.
      Lately, there's been more and more trying to put down Pac's accomplishments. Another item worth noting is that those discrediting Pacquiao are African-Americans. Look around (youtube and other sites). More aggressive postings from haters. I can sense that the insecurity button has been pushed. The insecurity that another African-American, someone who is suppose to be in the running for the No.1 P4P spot is being called out and appears to be dodging. So in return, as a defensive instinct, they resort to discrediting and finding ideas to make a case. B-hop's claim of Pacquiao avoiding African-Americans is an idiotic idea. The guy (Pacquiao) obviously wants the top breathing African-American there is today. But the so African-American is reluctant and has doubts in himself. Perhaps, he's picturing the faces of David Diaz, ODLH, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito. Never mind the savage beating that Ricky Hatton was able to avoid by dropping as early as round 2 or the broken orbital bone that Margarito suffered. I can really understand the reluctance, especially after claiming that he's the greatest, better that Ali and SRR. Can you imagine how much pressure that brings?

      I am an American and I see things the way it is. This country is known for integrity and calling things the way it is.

      Let's not fantasize and make arguments about Tim Bradley and Devon Alexander. They simply don't belong. Skills wise and PPV wise. Paul Williams? Too freakin big to be fair and honest, so don't even argue in that direction. Pacquiao even humbly admitted to receiving an equal beating from Margarito. That's like accusing Paul Williams of not fighting the K-bros even though he's not giving up too much in height and reach.

      Fact is - Floyd has doubts. Think about it. And be real.
      Floyd has not said a word since the Pac-Marg fight.
      Floyd was mute during the second negotiations. He waited for the "published" deadline to pass, a Pac-Marg contract signed and suddenly shows up saying "What negotiations"?. Made a liar out of everyone including all the HBO top executives. That was hilarious.
      Floyd said once that all Manny has to do is say "I want to fight Floyd Mayweather". That has been done a dozen times!!! Do I need to post links to prove it?

      You are witnessing a living legend and the sensible thing to do really is appreciate it. We all make mistakes and that's fine. I once rooted against Pacquiao until I became a believer. But you really have to give credit where credit is due. Hello! 8 titles in 8 weight classes! Are you listening? Do you understand? Regardless of whether he didn't beat the best in each weight class, but c'mon. 8 in 8. Are you listening? Can you remember when was the last time this was done? Be thankful it happened in your lifetime, given the opportunity to tell your grandchildren the story and bragging that you were there to witness it. Stop being a hater. PEACE!!!
      just look at youtube. all the people making boxing videos & putting down manny are of what race? i think we know the answer to that question. this is the one drawback of youtube. it allows young people to post videos & make themselves & their idiotic opinion seem important.

      just look at all the boxing analysis video. most of them are of a certain race.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by AmericanFighter View Post
        Disclosure: I am a white American.
        Lately, there's been more and more trying to put down Pac's accomplishments. Another item worth noting is that those discrediting Pacquiao are African-Americans. Look around (youtube and other sites). More aggressive postings from haters. I can sense that the insecurity button has been pushed. The insecurity that another African-American, someone who is suppose to be in the running for the No.1 P4P spot is being called out and appears to be dodging. So in return, as a defensive instinct, they resort to discrediting and finding ideas to make a case. B-hop's claim of Pacquiao avoiding African-Americans is an idiotic idea. The guy (Pacquiao) obviously wants the top breathing African-American there is today. But the so African-American is reluctant and has doubts in himself. Perhaps, he's picturing the faces of David Diaz, ODLH, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito. Never mind the savage beating that Ricky Hatton was able to avoid by dropping as early as round 2 or the broken orbital bone that Margarito suffered. I can really understand the reluctance, especially after claiming that he's the greatest, better that Ali and SRR. Can you imagine how much pressure that brings?

        I am an American and I see things the way it is. This country is known for integrity and calling things the way it is.

        Let's not fantasize and make arguments about Tim Bradley and Devon Alexander. They simply don't belong. Skills wise and PPV wise. Paul Williams? Too freakin big to be fair and honest, so don't even argue in that direction. Pacquiao even humbly admitted to receiving an equal beating from Margarito. That's like accusing Paul Williams of not fighting the K-bros even though he's not giving up too much in height and reach.

        Fact is - Floyd has doubts. Think about it. And be real.
        Floyd has not said a word since the Pac-Marg fight.
        Floyd was mute during the second negotiations. He waited for the "published" deadline to pass, a Pac-Marg contract signed and suddenly shows up saying "What negotiations"?. Made a liar out of everyone including all the HBO top executives. That was hilarious.
        Floyd said once that all Manny has to do is say "I want to fight Floyd Mayweather". That has been done a dozen times!!! Do I need to post links to prove it?

        You are witnessing a living legend and the sensible thing to do really is appreciate it. We all make mistakes and that's fine. I once rooted against Pacquiao until I became a believer. But you really have to give credit where credit is due. Hello! 8 titles in 8 weight classes! Are you listening? Do you understand? Regardless of whether he didn't beat the best in each weight class, but c'mon. 8 in 8. Are you listening? Can you remember when was the last time this was done? Be thankful it happened in your lifetime, given the opportunity to tell your grandchildren the story and bragging that you were there to witness it. Stop being a hater. PEACE!!!
        By the way, to all African-Americans: There is no shame! You have the best ever basketball player in Michael Jordan and best golfer in Tiger Woods, and the President of the United Sates. I'm just saying that you have to let go of the go, don't make it a racial thing, and give credit where it's due. PEACE!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by AmericanFighter View Post
          Disclosure: I am a white American.
          Lately, there's been more and more trying to put down Pac's accomplishments. Another item worth noting is that those discrediting Pacquiao are African-Americans. Look around (youtube and other sites). More aggressive postings from haters. I can sense that the insecurity button has been pushed. The insecurity that another African-American, someone who is suppose to be in the running for the No.1 P4P spot is being called out and appears to be dodging. So in return, as a defensive instinct, they resort to discrediting and finding ideas to make a case. B-hop's claim of Pacquiao avoiding African-Americans is an idiotic idea. The guy (Pacquiao) obviously wants the top breathing African-American there is today. But the so African-American is reluctant and has doubts in himself. Perhaps, he's picturing the faces of David Diaz, ODLH, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito. Never mind the savage beating that Ricky Hatton was able to avoid by dropping as early as round 2 or the broken orbital bone that Margarito suffered. I can really understand the reluctance, especially after claiming that he's the greatest, better that Ali and SRR. Can you imagine how much pressure that brings?

          I am an American and I see things the way it is. This country is known for integrity and calling things the way it is.

          Let's not fantasize and make arguments about Tim Bradley and Devon Alexander. They simply don't belong. Skills wise and PPV wise. Paul Williams? Too freakin big to be fair and honest, so don't even argue in that direction. Pacquiao even humbly admitted to receiving an equal beating from Margarito. That's like accusing Paul Williams of not fighting the K-bros even though he's not giving up too much in height and reach.

          Fact is - Floyd has doubts. Think about it. And be real.
          Floyd has not said a word since the Pac-Marg fight.
          Floyd was mute during the second negotiations. He waited for the "published" deadline to pass, a Pac-Marg contract signed and suddenly shows up saying "What negotiations"?. Made a liar out of everyone including all the HBO top executives. That was hilarious.
          Floyd said once that all Manny has to do is say "I want to fight Floyd Mayweather". That has been done a dozen times!!! Do I need to post links to prove it?

          You are witnessing a living legend and the sensible thing to do really is appreciate it. We all make mistakes and that's fine. I once rooted against Pacquiao until I became a believer. But you really have to give credit where credit is due. Hello! 8 titles in 8 weight classes! Are you listening? Do you understand? Regardless of whether he didn't beat the best in each weight class, but c'mon. 8 in 8. Are you listening? Can you remember when was the last time this was done? Be thankful it happened in your lifetime, given the opportunity to tell your grandchildren the story and bragging that you were there to witness it. Stop being a hater. PEACE!!!

          So then as an American you see no problem with Barry Bonds being the homerun king? Should Bonds be made to submit to testing? What about Marion Jones, shouldn't she be given back her medals? But on the other hand Mr.America, you feel that it's ok for Pac to avoid submitting to testing even though American children have to submit to it to qualify for the Olympics. Doesn't the soldiers that defend your country have to submit to drug testing at the drop of a hat? But your cool for some reason with Manny not having to. Integrity my ass. Only in America. I don't even have to wonder how your gonna feel when Floyd kicks Manny's ass. By the way, I'm mixed
          Last edited by Sugar Q; 11-20-2010, 11:35 AM.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by AmericanFighter View Post
            Disclosure: I am a white American.
            Lately, there's been more and more trying to put down Pac's accomplishments. Another item worth noting is that those discrediting Pacquiao are African-Americans. Look around (youtube and other sites). More aggressive postings from haters. I can sense that the insecurity button has been pushed. The insecurity that another African-American, someone who is suppose to be in the running for the No.1 P4P spot is being called out and appears to be dodging. So in return, as a defensive instinct, they resort to discrediting and finding ideas to make a case. B-hop's claim of Pacquiao avoiding African-Americans is an idiotic idea. The guy (Pacquiao) obviously wants the top breathing African-American there is today. But the so African-American is reluctant and has doubts in himself. Perhaps, he's picturing the faces of David Diaz, ODLH, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito. Never mind the savage beating that Ricky Hatton was able to avoid by dropping as early as round 2 or the broken orbital bone that Margarito suffered. I can really understand the reluctance, especially after claiming that he's the greatest, better that Ali and SRR. Can you imagine how much pressure that brings?

            I am an American and I see things the way it is. This country is known for integrity and calling things the way it is.

            Let's not fantasize and make arguments about Tim Bradley and Devon Alexander. They simply don't belong. Skills wise and PPV wise. Paul Williams? Too freakin big to be fair and honest, so don't even argue in that direction. Pacquiao even humbly admitted to receiving an equal beating from Margarito. That's like accusing Paul Williams of not fighting the K-bros even though he's not giving up too much in height and reach.

            Fact is - Floyd has doubts. Think about it. And be real.
            Floyd has not said a word since the Pac-Marg fight.
            Floyd was mute during the second negotiations. He waited for the "published" deadline to pass, a Pac-Marg contract signed and suddenly shows up saying "What negotiations"?. Made a liar out of everyone including all the HBO top executives. That was hilarious.
            Floyd said once that all Manny has to do is say "I want to fight Floyd Mayweather". That has been done a dozen times!!! Do I need to post links to prove it?

            You are witnessing a living legend and the sensible thing to do really is appreciate it. We all make mistakes and that's fine. I once rooted against Pacquiao until I became a believer. But you really have to give credit where credit is due. Hello! 8 titles in 8 weight classes! Are you listening? Do you understand? Regardless of whether he didn't beat the best in each weight class, but c'mon. 8 in 8. Are you listening? Can you remember when was the last time this was done? Be thankful it happened in your lifetime, given the opportunity to tell your grandchildren the story and bragging that you were there to witness it. Stop being a hater. PEACE!!!
            Well said!

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            • #46
              Originally posted by AmericanFighter View Post
              Disclosure: I am a white American.
              Lately, there's been more and more trying to put down Pac's accomplishments. Another item worth noting is that those discrediting Pacquiao are African-Americans. Look around (youtube and other sites). More aggressive postings from haters. I can sense that the insecurity button has been pushed. The insecurity that another African-American, someone who is suppose to be in the running for the No.1 P4P spot is being called out and appears to be dodging. So in return, as a defensive instinct, they resort to discrediting and finding ideas to make a case. B-hop's claim of Pacquiao avoiding African-Americans is an idiotic idea. The guy (Pacquiao) obviously wants the top breathing African-American there is today. But the so African-American is reluctant and has doubts in himself. Perhaps, he's picturing the faces of David Diaz, ODLH, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito. Never mind the savage beating that Ricky Hatton was able to avoid by dropping as early as round 2 or the broken orbital bone that Margarito suffered. I can really understand the reluctance, especially after claiming that he's the greatest, better that Ali and SRR. Can you imagine how much pressure that brings?

              I am an American and I see things the way it is. This country is known for integrity and calling things the way it is.

              Let's not fantasize and make arguments about Tim Bradley and Devon Alexander. They simply don't belong. Skills wise and PPV wise. Paul Williams? Too freakin big to be fair and honest, so don't even argue in that direction. Pacquiao even humbly admitted to receiving an equal beating from Margarito. That's like accusing Paul Williams of not fighting the K-bros even though he's not giving up too much in height and reach.

              Fact is - Floyd has doubts. Think about it. And be real.
              Floyd has not said a word since the Pac-Marg fight.
              Floyd was mute during the second negotiations. He waited for the "published" deadline to pass, a Pac-Marg contract signed and suddenly shows up saying "What negotiations"?. Made a liar out of everyone including all the HBO top executives. That was hilarious.
              Floyd said once that all Manny has to do is say "I want to fight Floyd Mayweather". That has been done a dozen times!!! Do I need to post links to prove it?

              You are witnessing a living legend and the sensible thing to do really is appreciate it. We all make mistakes and that's fine. I once rooted against Pacquiao until I became a believer. But you really have to give credit where credit is due. Hello! 8 titles in 8 weight classes! Are you listening? Do you understand? Regardless of whether he didn't beat the best in each weight class, but c'mon. 8 in 8. Are you listening? Can you remember when was the last time this was done? Be thankful it happened in your lifetime, given the opportunity to tell your grandchildren the story and bragging that you were there to witness it. Stop being a hater. PEACE!!!
              what a waste of time and effort. *****s will not accept, much more read that. *****s world is upside down, realities in this world to them are fantasies, prepare yourself now theyll be coming, as much as they dont read lengthy post they have this uncanny ability to sense long post as made by intelligent posters hence treat it as against floyd.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                So then as an American you see no problem with Barry Bonds being the homerun king? Should Bonds be made to submit to testing? What about Marion Jones, shouldn't she be given back her medals? But on the other hand Mr.America, you feel that it's ok for Pac to avoid submitting to testing even though American children have to submit to it to qualify for the Olympics. Doesn't the soldiers that defend your country have to submit to drug testing at the drop of a hat? But your cool for some reason with Manny not having to. Integrity my ass. Only in America. I don't even have to wonder how your gonna feel when Floyd kicks Manny's ass. By the way, I'm mixed
                Either you don't want to see the difference, or you're entirely too ****** to understand it.

                Bonds and Jones were tested along with every other athlete in their respective sports.

                They weren't the only ones nor was it a single player who asked them to be tested.


                Simpletons like you are asking for one fighter to submit to another fighters accusations. Accusations that have no merit, nor are those accusations backed by any proof.


                You guys still don't get that if you would demand all fighters be tested, like all athletes in other sports are,

                you'd have more of a leg to stand on. But as it is,

                you're all only screaming and yelling about one fight.

                That alone, tells that you really don't give a s hit about any better testing for the sport. It tells that you're more interested in following what Mayweather says.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                  So then as an American you see no problem with Barry Bonds being the homerun king? Should Bonds be made to submit to testing? What about Marion Jones, shouldn't she be given back her medals? But on the other hand Mr.America, you feel that it's ok for Pac to avoid submitting to testing even though American children have to submit to it to qualify for the Olympics. Doesn't the soldiers that defend your country have to submit to drug testing at the drop of a hat? But your cool for some reason with Manny not having to. Integrity my ass. Only in America. I don't even have to wonder how your gonna feel when Floyd kicks Manny's ass. By the way, I'm mixed
                  you are truly reaching & grasping at straws. barry bonds has admitted that he "unknowingly" took the cream & the clear. When has pacman? Didnt the rest of the baseball world & american mainstream media also admonish mark mcgwire? last i checked, he was also a pariah just like barrry bonds. Marion Jones now? again, she's an admitted cheat. How do they compare to manny?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Sugar Q View Post
                    So then as an American you see no problem with Barry Bonds being the homerun king? Should Bonds be made to submit to testing? What about Marion Jones, shouldn't she be given back her medals? But on the other hand Mr.America, you feel that it's ok for Pac to avoid submitting to testing even though American children have to submit to it to qualify for the Olympics. Doesn't the soldiers that defend your country have to submit to drug testing at the drop of a hat? But your cool for some reason with Manny not having to. Integrity my ass. Only in America. I don't even have to wonder how your gonna feel when Floyd kicks Manny's ass. By the way, I'm mixed
                    olympic style testing is for amateur, mr low IQ

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                    • #50
                      Bhop is wrong. Black Americans are good boxers because of their genetics, not skill.

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