HONEST Analysis on Mayweather vs Pacquiao

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Part 1:

Guys this is a LONG READ, but very interesting if you are a hardcore boxing fan, please take the time to read this, as over here I will give my honest analysis on why Mayweather beats Pacquiao.

First of all I would like all Pacquiao fans to know that I think Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter, and this is my honest opinion-based Analysis on what will happen when he faces Mayweather, so dont get offended. If you have something sensible to say, please do so by contributing to this thread or making a counter arguement of why you think im wrong, but if you troll in this thread I will place you on Ignore and you wont be able to post in this thread any more.

I think WHEN and IF these both amazing fighters get in the ring, Floyd will win a UD and in the process both fighters will get hurt in the ring, but Manny will take more damage in this fight and I will state why.

Out of Manny Pacquiao's last 3 fights + the Marquez fight here are some of the compubox stats of how many punches were landed on Pacquiao:

Marquez landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Cotto landed 172 punches on Pacquiao
Margarito landed 229 punches on Pacquiao
Clottey landed 108 punches on Pacquiao... (Clottey didn't throw many punches and was unwilling to let his hands go)

From this we gather that Manny hasn't got a very good defense and gets hit quite often. We have seen Manny fight, and defense is simply not one of his things, its his offense that usually makes up for it though, but in the process he gets hit and takes damage a lot even in fights he is winning comfortably in. Bare in mind these guys are not accurate punchers compared to Floyd Mayweather, they are accurate but Floyd's accuracy is much better.

On the other hand we know Floyd has a great defense and has set records on compubox because its hard to hit him clean due to his defense, and his defense also includes moving around the ring, dodging punches, head movement, shoulder roll/philly shell, turtle shell, you name it, floyd has all kinds of defense and he uses different ones depending on the circumstances, he just knows how NOT to get HIT.

Here are some of the compubox stats for the last 3 fights of Floyd + the Baldomir fight:

Mosley landed 92 punches on Floyd
Marquez landed 69 punches on Floyd
Hatton landed 63 punches on Floyd
Baldomir landed 79 punches on Floyd

See the trend here? Floyd doesnt get hit often, his average of getting hit is close to is 6 punches per round, I dont know what you guys think but I think thats absolutely amazing. I also noticed out of the four fights mentioned above for Pacquiao, Pacquiao had trouble with a moving target with counter punching ability such as Marquez, as he didn't throw many punches because he had a moving target in front of him, not a stationary target or a punching bag like Margarito. Pacquaio threw 619 punches against Marquez and landed 157, Marquez threw 511 and landed 172 against Pacquiao.

We can see who was more accurate there, but now lets have a look at the Margarito fight where Pacquiao threw 1069 puches almost doubling what he threw against Marquez, and landing 474 punches on Margarito (More than triple of what he landed against Marquez).

So the point here is because Margarito was a stationary target and a punching bag, and because Marquez was a moving target with skills and counter punching ability, we saw the difference between the punches thrown and landed in both these fights (Marquez and Margarito).

Just proves you can throw 1000 of punches and land often on a punching bag or a fighter who does not have good mobility, who does not use the ring properly, who does not use his legs and move around...such as Margarito. Now we know Floyd, like Marquez is a counter puncher who is a elusive moving target, meaning Pacquiao wont be able to throw or land as much as he did even against Marquez, because Floyd is a bigger and better version of Marquez, Floyd does everything better than Marquez and he is quicker than him, with better stamina, defense, and counter punching ability.

Another example is Joshua Clottey, who didn't really move much around the ring, he was a stationary target but he used defense. Pacquiao landed 246 out of 1231 punches thrown, Clottey almost avoided 1000 of Pacquiao punches using his defense but he wasn't moving around the ring, his ring mobility was unimpressive, and he wasn't countering Pacquiao at all, except maybe landing the occasional one or two right hands each round.

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Part 2:


So what we know is when a fighter who doesn't use his face as his defense, who moves around the ring while also counter punching Pacquiao, whose punches arent wide or predictable, then pacquiao wont be able to really throw or land much because you cant throw punches and land on something that is not there for you (Elusive target). So the movement and skills of Mayweather will decrease Pacquiao's work rate by a significant number. Even Cotto has a poor defense, and isn't on the level of Floyd or Marquez in counter punching or ring mobility.

People who think the work rate will bother Floyd, think again because Oscar, Hatton, Mosley, Marquez, Corrales and Gatti all had a great workrate before they fought Floyd. Pacquiao's work rate decreased in the two fights with Marquez but it was brilliant against Margarito, and you guys know why because I mentioned it before, Styles make fights. The only reason the Marquez fights were as close as they were because of the knockdowns that went against Marquez and we know Marquez hasn't got great defense but has a good ring movement and uses his legs properly, uses the ring and isn't stationary.

Its amazing how Floyd reduces the workrates of fighters by his ring mobility/movement. He is illusive, defensive and accurate, when he counters you he makes you think twice before you throw punches at him because you would get countered back, and the ones you dont see coming always hurt the most.


Diego Corrales (RIP) threw almost 900 punches against Gairy st claire, How many did he throw against Floyd?

Hatton threw 755 punches against Juan Urango and 741 against Collazo, How many did he throw against floyd? he threw 372 and 63 landed which is a connect percentage of 17%

Marquez threw 732 punches against juan diaz in 9 rounds

Shane Mosley threw 774 against Cotto and 507 against margarito in 9 rounds but he threw 452 against floyd and landed 92, which is a connect percentage of 20%

De La Hoya threw 810 against Forbes and 792 against Sturm.

Floyd approaches every fight differently and studies opponents when he is in the ring with them, and adapts according to the fight after a few rounds because he has a boxing brain. Pacquiao hasn't had any reason to adjust in his recent fights because he was dominating, Roach makes a gameplan for him and Manny follows it and is successful, but when Pacquiao was unable to adjust against Marquez in two fights even Roach couldn't help him, so when he faces Floyd, how will he adjust and outsmart him? Tough task.

We all know Barrera, Miguel Cotto and Oscar De La Hoya are natural lefties who converted to southpaw, meaning they write with their left hand, eat with their left hand, and basicly do everything with their left hand, its their main hand. Their left hand is the most powerful weapon, neither of these guys had a good or decent straight right hands like Marquez or Morales did but Oscar and cotto had very good left hooks, left jab, etc. instead.

Pacquiao lost to Erik Morales and almost lost to Juan Manuel Marquez who were not only naturally right handed Orthodox fighters but also had good straight right hands, and counter punched Pacquiao effectively with the straight right hand.

If Morales and Marquez effectively punched Pacquiao with straight right hands, an effective weapon against most southpaws, and even more effective against Pacquiao in general as seen in past fight, then my question is how will Pacquiao cope with Floyd Mayweather's counter straight right hand, which by far is his BEST PUNCH. Floyd is better at it than Marquez and Morales, but he has the height, reach, defense, accuracy, movement as well with it, and is quicker than Morales and Marquez, Floyd has the speed and timing, Morales and Marquez had the timing but not the speed, and Floyd is the same speed or slightly quicker than Pacquiao.

Pacquiao has looked good in his recent fights because Freddie roach is a genius as he picked the right fights for him. Roach has been very clever in the recent match making of Pacquiao along with the catch-weights, mind games and tactics to weaken fighters, whether physically or mentally, but the match making has basicly played a main part in this, styles make fights.


My Prediction: Mayweather by UD (9 rounds to 3, 117-111) with hurting Pacquiao in the later rounds, while Pacquiao will hurt Floyd in the first 6 rounds.

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Here's mine: Fantasy fights are just that.....fantasy.

This match-up will never come into fruition.

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Welcome to the ignore list Jack Napier. I already said no trolling, if you have nothing sensible to post then dont, go spam somewhere else. I am asking the smart Pacquiao fans to give an answer, opinion or give a counter arguement to what I have said so far, and where I was wrong.

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Here's mine: Fantasy fights are just that.....fantasy.

This match-up will never come into fruition.

Did you even read what I wrote? Are any Pacquiao fans hardcore boxing fans?

[vercingetorix3]

Did you even read what I wrote? Are any Pacquiao fans hardcore boxing fans?

Yea, I did. And contrary to what you may think, I don't believe Manny Pacquiao is the second coming of Christ.

Floyd would beat Manny Pacquiao, that's what I believe.

But it's somewhat pointless to discuss it at this point until there's an offer, acceptance, consideration, lack of defense, and legal capacity as defined by common law regarding contracts for services rendered.

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It's your opinion so good job.