Comments Thread For: Team David Haye Explain Klitschko Situation, Solution

[khepesh]

because there is a better deal where more money can be made? why are the klits hiding behind the cameras, time for them to man up and tell the truth, tired of their lies

They should show the numbers then, Boente also said that. Haye's party has been only talk to this point.

[Rick Grimes]

Everything is all smoke and mirrors with David and Adam. The fight can't be made now because of madatories? This is a ridiculous excuse, one that carries no validity given the fact that sanctioning bodies will normally put a mandatory on hold for a unification bout.

Yesterday I commented on an article that talked about Haye avoiding Chagaev and stated that I believe Haye will take the Chagaev fight for two reasons. One because he knows he can win it, and two it offers him a convenient way to avoid fighting a Klitschko. Today Adam's already using the "mandatory" excuse and unleashing all kinds of ridiculous additional excuses as to why a Klitschko fight can not be made.

I do think however that Haye/Klitschko negotiations should be very public. I still believe with 99% certainty that the reason no fight with a Klitschko has been made is because Haye has no interest in the fight and wants to milk his WBA trinket but public negotiations would lay to rest any doubts any of us have about Haye and about the Klitschko's.

Wladimir once called Haye out publicly on video and I'd like to see either him or Vitali do it again by a moving forward with public negotiations. Calling Haye's bluff in this way I think would settle things once and for all. All team Haye has is excuses and what's worse none of them hold any water, they're reminiscent of the excuses a 3rd grader uses when he/she doesn't have any homework to turn in.

Haye's always grasping at straws and he will continue to do so in the coming weeks anytime a Klitschko is brought up.

FFS why can't people actually listen to what he says? He says these are things that need to be discussed and sorted out with the organisations before the fight can happen. He didn't say that they will stop the fight.

[lfc19titles]

They should show the numbers then, Boente also said that. Haye's party has been only talk to this point.

thats what hayes team said, make it public, everything will be out in the open when the negotiate

[Rick Grimes]

Exactly, Boente OWNED Booth, exposed them to at least two of their lies - 1) They gave three options to Saureland/King when they said three options by Klitschkos was a "slave contract"
2) That he doesn't have to fight the mandatory, Booth and Vagina can work that out with the WBA because it's a unification fight

Sauerland options are different from the Klitschko's, Sauerlands didn't force him into rematches.

[Ray*]

RTL has a contract that they can air all the klitschko fights, they don't need to pay anymore to air their fights. So David Haye is getting **** from RTL

That seem to be the sticking point as well, Because the money this fight would generate from other german TV would be more than RTL would be paying the Klits, Its in Haye's and Wlad best interest to shop the fight around to other greman TV executive in they can....Its also a business and nothing wrong in exploring that option.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Everything is all smoke and mirrors with David and Adam. The fight can't be made now because of madatories? This is a ridiculous excuse, one that carries no validity given the fact that sanctioning bodies will normally put a mandatory on hold for a unification bout.

Yesterday I commented on an article that talked about Haye avoiding Chagaev and stated that I believe Haye will take the Chagaev fight for two reasons. One because he knows he can win it, and two it offers him a convenient way to avoid fighting a Klitschko. Today Adam's already using the "mandatory" excuse and unleashing all kinds of ridiculous additional excuses as to why a Klitschko fight can not be made.

I do think however that Haye/Klitschko negotiations should be very public. I still believe with 99% certainty that the reason no fight with a Klitschko has been made is because Haye has no interest in the fight and wants to milk his WBA trinket but public negotiations would lay to rest any doubts any of us have about Haye and about the Klitschko's.

Wladimir once called Haye out publicly on video and I'd like to see either him or Vitali do it again by a moving forward with public negotiations. Calling Haye's bluff in this way I think would settle things once and for all. All team Haye has is excuses and what's worse none of them hold any water, they're reminiscent of the excuses a 3rd grader uses when he/she doesn't have any homework to turn in.

Haye's always grasping at straws and he will continue to do so in the coming weeks anytime a Klitschko is brought up.

Green K for that, Boente should make the negotiations public and live, but just like with everything else Booth and Vagina Co., have said and done, they are lying once again. There is already talk of Vagina wanting to duck Chagaev because of the Hep B excuse, and now he is saying that they have to fight Chagaev as an excuse for not fighting a Klitschko. Double talk once again - from the people that brought you:
"Oh it's my hand, wait my back, I just need 2 weeks, maybe 3, second though you want doctor's proof? Well then maybe I need 6 or 8 weeks, just go ahead and fight someone else then..."

"Everything is ready to go for the Vitaly fight, oh wait we changed our mind about Vitaly with one week to go, now we are going with Valuev.."

"The reason I have been quite all this time is that I had nothing good to say and my mum always said that if you had nothing good to say then don't say anything at all" (I guess she told him that make t-shirts depicting decapitation and posing with cutoff bloody heads was ok, as well as claiming you are going to gang-**** someone. My guess it had something to do with both Klitschkos have just officially committed to fight Briggs and Peter, that's the only reason you suddenly came out of hiding).

"Oh I'll never fight Fraudley, he is a joke, I'll be labeled a coward if I do, oh wait, that fight makes sense and I have been getting e-mails asking me to fight him..."

Booth and Vagina have ZERO credibility after all that, only delusional Brits still believe them...

[khepesh]

thats what hayes team said, make it public, everything will be out in the open when the negotiate

Then why Haye's team doesn't care to contact the German TV stations and show that there really is more money?

This is how Wlad - Povetkin bid went, K2 and Sauerland - http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=28852

Still Booth, who likely gets his information from Sauerland, insists that there is more money to make in Germany. They really need to get some black ink on white paper to be taken seriously.

[WladIsTheChamp]

Sauerland options are different from the Klitschko's, Sauerlands didn't force him into rematches.

Actually there was a rematch clause with Valuev but he failed to enforce it because of the injuries. Regardless, the only reason why he took the options with Saureland/King is because it's much easier to beat Valuev, Ruiz, Fraudley, _____. Then it is to beat a Klitschko, Klitschko, Klitschko. Even though the second option would be much more lucrative had he actually succeeded.

You all delusional Brits seem to have amnesia because the only reason why Vagina has any fame at all is because he promised and claimed that he can, will, wants to, and NEEDS to beat BOTH Klitschkos. But when the Klitschkos oblige and line up those fights for him, all of a sudden it's a "slave contract"... what a joke.

[Zn1]

so hes german and he lies...wow

[WladIsTheChamp]

The Klitschkos are calling Vagina's and Booth's bluff and once again they will fold just like every time for the past 2 years. They know they can't beat any of them and they know the Klitschkos will not accept less than 50/50 (nor should they), so the ducker will try to avoid the fight. The only problem is I think that he will loose to either Chagaev or Boytson, the next in line after Chagaev (which Vagina will duck by using the Hep B excuse). I think Vagina knows this as well, so don't be surprised if Vagina sits on the fake WBA trinket, that belongs to Wlad acutally, for at least 6 months, gets stripped, fights another 39+ year old has-been or never-was (maybe even Holyfield), and retires...