Hiding in plain sight.... Manny Pacquiao

[jack2x]

First off, I think Manny is a great fighter. But this cloud of pretection, and all the Wee Wee sucking gets to be a lil toooooo much. He's just a fighter..

I'll admit, it's the feel good story of the year. It's a true rags to riches, sweet humble poor Manny.
But I'm sorry to break it to you people, Manny has changed.

Manny would have to be a functioning ******, a complete brain dead moron not to now what's going on around him.
If Manny is a thinking man at all he knows that, taking the Full Random Blood & Urine is not the only way to get the fight, but it's the only way to remove ANY doubt.

The cat is out the bag, the accusation is out there!! (Yes the way they went about it was wrong) But!!
The cat is out of the bag, the accusation is out there, now what are you gonna do?

Find me one comment, article or headline where Team Pac, or Pac himself mentions "retirement" before PEDs came up.
You noticed as soon as PEDs were mentioned, Pacs end or retirement, 2-3 more fights left talk started popping up.. (Were you paying attention?)

Nowhere in the above have I said Manny was using, but i do have my doubts he may have something to hide.
"Manny has never tested posative, he's passed all his drug tests"
Well so has Mosley and both Vitali & Vlad,but this still does'nt mean Manny is using.
Declining drug tests does'nt mean he's using PEDs,this is true. Some people are gonna doubt, others are gonna support it. but they all know the stale and dirty smell that comes with declining drug tests.

Manny can ride off into the sunset, his 6 legit titles in tow. But unless he agrees to be Fully tested....
Yes we'll look back at his career, all the wonderful and exciting fights he's had and be amazed.
But after all the fights are watched, all the praises have been given. All the laughing and slapping 5 is done. I'd bet my life, within that span of time of amazment the fact that he never took the test (For whatever reason) lingers*

Floyd has always been known as a coward, to the haters that is. A ducker, a cherry picker (The list goes on).........
But the one thing he'll never be, is a drug user, PED user, the man that declined to be tested (For whatever reason.

When or if random testing is ever done in any US pro sport, we know who did it first.

"FULL random testing" you said?...but floyd ost is not full ost at all..full ost is all year round and why didn't floyd asked for all year round testing?? coz he might be the one benefitting roid/peds when out of competition **his out on vacation again)) then flushes them out in time for trainiing camp so testing in training camp is useless when it comes to testing floyd in case his the one using since everybody is a suspect when it comes to peds used and the fact that floyd is known to be xylocaine user..now you mention mosley et al that they didnt caught him using peds - exactly! thats why i'm telling you that floyd ost is flawed coz mosley used peds during downtime and was given the proper scchedule by victor conte to avoid getting caught by nsac or any testing org..here's the link: "http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content8841.html"


regarding your last quote "When or if random testing is ever done in any US pro sport, we know who did it first.[/QUOTE]" ....i say, floyd did it to avoid a prime pac! not satisfied??? then you have to argue what victor conte said in this quote :

"For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that." -- Victor Conte..........

[itch_its_techno]

Call it what you want. the notion that pac refused the tests cause he felt it was insulting is BS. He went from being scared of needles to ....uh, oh yeah, i'm not doing it cause he disrespected me by even mentioning it. It's usually the guys with the virulent outrage that are guilty. he's gonna originally refuse a fight cause he felt disrespected? If that was the case, he should've definitely pulled out of the margo fight. Don't come at me with that there's a first time for everything mess either. Not when we've had over a hundred years of boxing. not with the same variables other fighters have.
A) roach-pacs not his first pupil so it can't be that his coaching style is the secret.
B)pac-never in history has someone moved up so much in weight and retained his speed, and is exponentially more powerful. And no one has accused him of having had a huge boxing brain at any time in his career.
C)conditioning-it can't be that his body just accepts conditioning that much better than everyone else's, or that his conditioning advisors just know something everyone else hasn't figured out all these years.

Now i know pac's fans will chalk this up to his greatness and not even attempt to give a valid explanation. case in point, watched the fight at my filipino buddies house. All eight of them were like,"dude, he's just great. i don't know why. maybe he was just born with it". That's an explanation for why tenacious d is great, not an athlete in a sport that's been around forever. They'll also mask that lack of logic by calling names and insulting. As for me, i kind of have to subscribe to the notion that maybe the mayweathers were just the first to be brave enough to say it out loud, but they definitely weren't the first to think it. And personally, i don't think it matters if they brought it up cause they were scared or not. maybe they should be if it's true. He still needed to answer that question by submitting in the beginning. cause to me, it doesn't even matter now that he agrees to them darn near a year later. that's if he has cause we still don't know what was in the contract as fans. bob says something and folks run with it and automatically turn it into fact. The fact remains that i'm not buying into the emporer's new clothes trick of if you need an explanation, you're just dumb or a *****.

[Vasyl’s dad]

We're still waiting for Floyd to partake in full, random, year round blood testing.

Knowing the timeframe in which you are to take tests (during training) isn't random at all.

[carts]

he fought JMM w/o the test yet he said JMM is a better boxer than pac. WTF???

[jack2x]

Call it what you want. the notion that pac refused the tests cause he felt it was insulting is BS. He went from being scared of needles to ....uh, oh yeah, i'm not doing it cause he disrespected me by even mentioning it. It's usually the guys with the virulent outrage that are guilty. he's gonna originally refuse a fight cause he felt disrespected? If that was the case, he should've definitely pulled out of the margo fight. Don't come at me with that there's a first time for everything mess either. Not when we've had over a hundred years of boxing. not with the same variables other fighters have.
A) roach-pacs not his first pupil so it can't be that his coaching style is the secret.
B)pac-never in history has someone moved up so much in weight and retained his speed, and is exponentially more powerful. And no one has accused him of having had a huge boxing brain at any time in his career.
C)conditioning-it can't be that his body just accepts conditioning that much better than everyone else's, or that his conditioning advisors just know something everyone else hasn't figured out all these years.

Now i know pac's fans will chalk this up to his greatness and not even attempt to give a valid explanation. case in point, watched the fight at my filipino buddies house. All eight of them were like,"dude, he's just great. i don't know why. maybe he was just born with it". That's an explanation for why tenacious d is great, not an athlete in a sport that's been around forever. They'll also mask that lack of logic by calling names and insulting. As for me, i kind of have to subscribe to the notion that maybe the mayweathers were just the first to be brave enough to say it out loud, but they definitely weren't the first to think it. And personally, i don't think it matters if they brought it up cause they were scared or not. maybe they should be if it's true. He still needed to answer that question by submitting in the beginning. cause to me, it doesn't even matter now that he agrees to them darn near a year later. that's if he has cause we still don't know what was in the contract as fans. bob says something and folks run with it and automatically turn it into fact. The fact remains that i'm not buying into the emporer's new clothes trick of if you need an explanation, you're just dumb or a *****.

the same notion that floyd stated pac's an easy fight and gonna whu##ed his a## but then demands for flawed ost and created endless roadblocks.

[quick reply]

Thread Starter is another case of a crying ***** who is trying to feel better by throwing out what he feels .....

Floyd you have to come out now, are you still in chilean mine? *****s are crying out here...

As Roy Jones said, you are the only one who can beat Pac because you are a Sick Black American Boxer. lol

[| THE KING |]

Good eating right there..

[| THE KING |]

Call it what you want. the notion that pac refused the tests cause he felt it was insulting is BS. He went from being scared of needles to ....uh, oh yeah, i'm not doing it cause he disrespected me by even mentioning it. It's usually the guys with the virulent outrage that are guilty. he's gonna originally refuse a fight cause he felt disrespected? If that was the case, he should've definitely pulled out of the margo fight. Don't come at me with that there's a first time for everything mess either. Not when we've had over a hundred years of boxing. not with the same variables other fighters have.
A) roach-pacs not his first pupil so it can't be that his coaching style is the secret.
B)pac-never in history has someone moved up so much in weight and retained his speed, and is exponentially more powerful. And no one has accused him of having had a huge boxing brain at any time in his career.
C)conditioning-it can't be that his body just accepts conditioning that much better than everyone else's, or that his conditioning advisors just know something everyone else hasn't figured out all these years.

Now i know pac's fans will chalk this up to his greatness and not even attempt to give a valid explanation. case in point, watched the fight at my filipino buddies house. All eight of them were like,"dude, he's just great. i don't know why. maybe he was just born with it". That's an explanation for why tenacious d is great, not an athlete in a sport that's been around forever. They'll also mask that lack of logic by calling names and insulting. As for me, i kind of have to subscribe to the notion that maybe the mayweathers were just the first to be brave enough to say it out loud, but they definitely weren't the first to think it. And personally, i don't think it matters if they brought it up cause they were scared or not. maybe they should be if it's true. He still needed to answer that question by submitting in the beginning. cause to me, it doesn't even matter now that he agrees to them darn near a year later. that's if he has cause we still don't know what was in the contract as fans. bob says something and folks run with it and automatically turn it into fact. The fact remains that i'm not buying into the emporer's new clothes trick of if you need an explanation, you're just dumb or a *****.

False. You failed on your second sentence.. the rest of your essay is irrelevant.

[straightleft]

First off, I think Manny is a great fighter. But this cloud of pretection, and all the Wee Wee sucking gets to be a lil toooooo much. He's just a fighter..

I'll admit, it's the feel good story of the year. It's a true rags to riches, sweet humble poor Manny.
But I'm sorry to break it to you people, Manny has changed.

Manny would have to be a functioning ******, a complete brain dead moron not to now what's going on around him.
If Manny is a thinking man at all he knows that, taking the Full Random Blood & Urine is not the only way to get the fight, but it's the only way to remove ANY doubt.

The cat is outz the bag, the accusation is out there!! (Yes the way they went about it was wrong) But!!
The cat is out of the bag, the accusation is out there, now what are you gonna do?

Find me one comment, article or headline where Team Pac, or Pac himself mentions "retirement" before PEDs came up.
You noticed as soon as PEDs were mentioned, Pacs end or retirement, 2-3 more fights left talk started popping up.. (Were you paying attention?)

Nowhere in the above have I said Manny was using, but i do have my doubts he may have something to hide.
"Manny has never tested posative, he's passed all his drug tests"
Well so has Mosley and both Vitali & Vlad,but this still does'nt mean Manny is using.
Declining drug tests does'nt mean he's using PEDs,this is true. Some people are gonna doubt, others are gonna support it. but they all know the stale and dirty smell that comes with declining drug tests.

Manny can ride off into the sunset, his 6 legit titles in tow. But unless he agrees to be Fully tested....
Yes we'll look back at his career, all the wonderful and exciting fights he's had and be amazed.
But after all the fights are watched, all the praises have been given. All the laughing and slapping 5 is done. I'd bet my life, within that span of time of amazment the fact that he never took the test (For whatever reason) lingers*

Floyd has always been known as a coward, to the haters that is. A ducker, a cherry picker (The list goes on).........
But the one thing he'll never be, is a drug user, PED user, the man that declined to be tested (For whatever reason.

When or if random testing is ever done in any US pro sport, we know who did it first.

Can't you get it? Floyd doesn't want any part of Pac! 7 days is more than enough and one right after the fight but he still puussy out! There are no kinds of PEDs that will help your performance in whatsoever during the fight that may not be detected after the fight blood testing. Let us say there is really a PED that Pac can use during this 7 days and cant be detected after the fight test. What is the benefits he will gain for that? Lets say after taking those PED will he becomes super strong, super fast, can take super punch better with his super chin and suddenly he will acquire a superhuman abilities and boxing skills? Show me the links what PED is this otherwise just go back to Floyd ********!

[kuhl_jackman]

First off, I think Manny is a great fighter. But this cloud of pretection, and all the Wee Wee sucking gets to be a lil toooooo much. He's just a fighter..

I'll admit, it's the feel good story of the year. It's a true rags to riches, sweet humble poor Manny.
But I'm sorry to break it to you people, Manny has changed.

Manny would have to be a functioning ******, a complete brain dead moron not to now what's going on around him.
If Manny is a thinking man at all he knows that, taking the Full Random Blood & Urine is not the only way to get the fight, but it's the only way to remove ANY doubt.

The cat is out the bag, the accusation is out there!! (Yes the way they went about it was wrong) But!!
The cat is out of the bag, the accusation is out there, now what are you gonna do?

Find me one comment, article or headline where Team Pac, or Pac himself mentions "retirement" before PEDs came up.
You noticed as soon as PEDs were mentioned, Pacs end or retirement, 2-3 more fights left talk started popping up.. (Were you paying attention?)

Nowhere in the above have I said Manny was using, but i do have my doubts he may have something to hide.
"Manny has never tested posative, he's passed all his drug tests"
Well so has Mosley and both Vitali & Vlad,but this still does'nt mean Manny is using.
Declining drug tests does'nt mean he's using PEDs,this is true. Some people are gonna doubt, others are gonna support it. but they all know the stale and dirty smell that comes with declining drug tests.

Manny can ride off into the sunset, his 6 legit titles in tow. But unless he agrees to be Fully tested....
Yes we'll look back at his career, all the wonderful and exciting fights he's had and be amazed.
But after all the fights are watched, all the praises have been given. All the laughing and slapping 5 is done. I'd bet my life, within that span of time of amazment the fact that he never took the test (For whatever reason) lingers*

Floyd has always been known as a coward, to the haters that is. A ducker, a cherry picker (The list goes on).........
But the one thing he'll never be, is a drug user, PED user, the man that declined to be tested (For whatever reason.

When or if random testing is ever done in any US pro sport, we know who did it first.

You know what?! your thread is useless bcoz floyd is on VACATION and not thinking about boxing and busy beating his ex-wife and poking security guards. LOL