I think Manny is on PEDS.

[BoZz]

I AM READY FOR ALL THE FLAME FROM PAC TARDS, but REAL boxing fans hear me out!!!

No Joke. Alex Ariza came into his camp right around the time of 2008, when Manny was getting ready to fight Marquez for the 2nd time. He went to WAR with Marquez who is a lot smaller than mayweather, cotto, clottey, cheato.
Manny didn't break Marquez's face lol, he got rocked by a counter left hook also. And during that night I believe manny weighed around 145-147ish? So lets fast forward....ppl are saying Manny has always weighed around that much..EXCEPT now he is RAMPAGING guys, like Cotto , cheato, knocking out guys with 1 punch who had decent chins. It dosn't make sense. I also read somewhere that Pacquaio benched 315x 1 before his fight against Hatton. YEAH OKAY, if that is the case, that is seriously mad juice. Power lifters at that weight can barely do that and they train all year around for it. Imagine a power lift who just starts putting on gloves and whooping everry1. All I am saying is that..I think Alex is behind all this stuff, Manny's power has seriously gone up 300%. His fighting style is the same, look at all his previous fight he is the same guy, in and out, jab sucks, just good in and out movement. Plus he wants 7 day cut offf lo...u can do EPO up to 5 days..and when someone is small liek Manny, He can sweat off whatever is in his system on the night of the fight. Also the tougher the competition it seems Pacman performs so much better, like against Clottey it was kind of boring he looked human but ppl knew Clottey wasnt gonna throw back. Against Cotto and Marg, man..he compeltely just walked through everything and destroyed them. Manny please take drug test and fight Mayweather.

I know I will get 10 red k's but watever.

I agree with you finally a reasonable poster,you see that's what I've been saying all the time because when pac fought the smaller fighters he use to receive a beating in every fight suddenly ariza arrives makes those shakes pac starts having an easier time beating those "bigger" fighters I know most were at catch weight and in his advantage but still there is something fishy going on.

And what about in the show 24/7 KONTZ stating again;WE NEED AT LEAST A WEEK GAP with the blood tests but weeks before rumors were going around that pacquiao does NOT need any gap and he doesn't need to know the time of the tests..it's very fishy but we'll never find out because he will NEVER take the test shane mosley and mayweather took.

[mrcupide2]

genius, its how they changed his diet. They upped his calories and reduced his body fat. instead of eating 3x a day he's eating 5 or 6. They measured how many calories he burned, and computed how much calories his body needed.

Ariza also changd his workouts and focused on fast twitch muscles. Manny is performing at a peak level with his diet and workout regiment. You can attest to all world class athletes to the same concept. Do you think athletes dont eat "beef, chicken, rice"

"beef, chicken, rice, thats it!???" If you were to eat 2 meals a day, over large portions of beef chicken and rice, a normal person would end up as fat as you. But if you eat the correct amount along with intense exercises with a world class trainer, you'd expect to be in shape. What do you think "other" athletes do? you dont think other athletes watch their diet and change their workouts?

Bhop and Bradley go entirely vegan in their camps. Is that something to be su****ious as well?





If i were a ***** id report you for racism

There are fast twitch muscles and slow twitch muscles. Fast twitch is more for strength and speed...if Manny mostly worked on his fast swtiche muscles..then he woulnd't have the endurance he does. Slow twitch fibers are activated when you hit reps around 12+ and represent muscle endurance. Also with his diet...im pretty sure 99% of boxers eat small meals like Manny does but why does Manny preform 200% more effiecent? hmm

[mannyman]

A little off topic, but funny: Paul Malignaggi now trains in Wild Card and wants to hire Ariza.

nooo... seriously? that *****ole was on the Pac PED band waggon too.

[MindBat]

I agree with you finally a reasonable poster,you see that's what I've been saying all the time because when pac fought the smaller fighters he use to receive a beating in every fight suddenly ariza arrives makes those shakes pac starts having an easier time beating those "bigger" fighters I know most were at catch weight and in his advantage but still there is something fishy going on.

And what about in the show 24/7 KONTZ stating again;WE NEED AT LEAST A WEEK GAP with the blood tests but weeks before rumors were going around that pacquiao does NOT need any gap and he doesn't need to know the time of the tests..it's very fishy but we'll never find out because he will NEVER take the test shane mosley and mayweather took.

The contradiction between Pacquiao and Koncz is very telling. Everybody sees right through it.

But it doesn't count because Manny is more popular right now.

[shogunn]

There are fast twitch muscles and slow twitch muscles. Fast twitch is more for strength and speed...if Manny mostly worked on his fast swtiche muscles..then he woulnd't have the endurance he does. Slow twitch fibers are activated when you hit reps around 12+ and represent muscle endurance. Also with his diet...im pretty sure 99% of boxers eat small meals like Manny does but why does Manny preform 200% more effiecent? hmm

yes, because when you train your fast twitch muscles you automatically lose your endurance. That makes complete ****in sense to me.

200%, is that a correct number? its not just eating small meals, they measure his calorie vs calories burned. They also measure his body fat and adjust his calorie intake accordingly. Its not just "small meals", there's a science to it. Obviously there's alot more that goes into it than just that, this is explained his Teri Tom's book.

But its easier for you just to spout off random ****. What happened to your beef chicken and rice argument? your were on a roll on that one.

[AntDawg]

Well Toney looked pretty good against Ruiz. (The fight he got caught.) And Mosley looked pretty good against Oscar in the fight he got caught cheating. Also, Roy Jones is a suspected user of PEDs, and he's looked MORE than superhuman in the past. Let's not act like it's entirely out of the question that Manny Pacquiao is on something. IMO, there's about a 70% chance he's either on something as we speak, or has at least taken something in the past. I bet TONS of boxers on-cycle during training camp, and get off with like a month to go or something. It's not hard to get around testing, and that's why the testing has to be more stringent.

Mosley did not look good against Oscar in the second fight.....dude looked horrible lol...

[BoZz]

genius, its how they changed his diet. They upped his calories and reduced his body fat. instead of eating 3x a day he's eating 5 or 6. They measured how many calories he burned, and computed how much calories his body needed.

Ariza also changd his workouts and focused on fast twitch muscles. Manny is performing at a peak level with his diet and workout regiment. You can attest to all world class athletes to the same concept. Do you think athletes dont eat "beef, chicken, rice"

"beef, chicken, rice, thats it!???" If you were to eat 2 meals a day, over large portions of beef chicken and rice, a normal person would end up as fat as you. But if you eat the correct amount along with intense exercises with a world class trainer, you'd expect to be in shape. What do you think "other" athletes do? you dont think other athletes watch their diet and change their workouts?

Bhop and Bradley go entirely vegan in their camps. Is that something to be su****ious as well?





If i were a ***** id report you for racism

so a little diet change will make you a complete different fighter?? lol yea right ,the thing is that after the JMM fight even the commentators were doubting pac they said his career could be finished.A diet won't make you punch harder and being able to fight better than before lol

He's on something and everyone knows that it's just that he's protected by arum and other crooks around him,the wild card gym has had a few roid heads train there before.

I mean you gotta think about it if you was in pacs shoes you might cheat as well because he knew if his boxing career declined his political career would be finished.People like you as long as you win but if you start losing they turn to someone else if things went right nonito donaire would be the phillipino pride now because he fought his way up the legal way.

So it's simple no winning no political career.

And ariza making those shakes and arum picking the top rank crew to fight him nothing can go wrong lol

[mrcupide2]

yes, because when you train your fast twitch muscles you automatically lose your endurance. That makes complete ****in sense to me.

200%, is that a correct number? its not just eating small meals, they measure his calorie vs calories burned. They also measure his body fat and adjust his calorie intake accordingly. Its not just "small meals", there's a science to it. Obviously there's alot more that goes into it than just that, this is explained his Teri Tom's book.

But its easier for you just to spout off random ****. What happened to your beef chicken and rice argument? your were on a roll on that one.

Im saying in 2 months, you cannot turn into a machine liek Manny does. It's very hard to work on pure strength and endurance. Very very hard, esp for a guy like Manny's size, who says he needs to eat liek 6000 calories. Yeah okay..he eats so much yet he is so lean like a monster but just his strengthh increase so much. I read many body building articles and I never heard of someone getting so strong and fast and maintaing the same weight while eatting close to like67 k calories. I read in an interview that Manny eats around that much..225 lb body builders dont even eat that much.

[shogunn]

so a little diet change will make you a complete different fighter?? lol yea right ,the thing is that after the JMM fight even the commentators were doubting pac they said his career could be finished.A diet won't make you punch harder and being able to fight better than before lol

He's on something and everyone knows that it's just that he's protected by arum and other crooks around him,the wild card gym has had a few roid heads train there before.

I mean you gotta think about it if you was in pacs shoes you might cheat as well because he knew if his boxing career declined his political career would be finished.People like you as long as you win but if you start losing they turn to someone else if things went right nonito donaire would be the phillipino pride now because he fought his way up the legal way.

So it's simple no winning no political career.

And ariza making those shakes and arum picking the top rank crew to fight him nothing can go wrong lol

actually, yes it does.

Ask Roy Jones or Benard Hopkins if theyve ever drank alcohol.

Why does Bhop eat Vegan, because he just enjoys eating bland food?

What type of person watches their diet under a magnifying glass? an athlete? or a keyboard warrior.


Why does Ricky Hatton stop drinking beer and watches his diet a month or two before a fight?

If you knew anything about boxing, boxers take that diet very seriously. Since you love floyd though, its a different matter.

[shogunn]

Im saying in 2 months, you cannot turn into a machine liek Manny does. It's very hard to work on pure strength and endurance. Very very hard, esp for a guy like Manny's size, who says he needs to eat liek 6000 calories. Yeah okay..he eats so much yet he is so lean like a monster but just his strengthh increase so much. I read many body building articles and I never heard of someone getting so strong and fast and maintaing the same weight while eatting close to like67 k calories. I read in an interview that Manny eats around that much..225 lb body builders dont even eat that much.

who said anything in 2 months? mannys been with ariza for 2 YEARS. you read body building articles, who cares. Michael phelps ate 9000 calories a day during the olympics.

This is getting no where, you obviously have no idea whatyoure talking about. Youre pulling info from some bodybuilding articles you mightve read years ago, and answers.com

I was trying to find where you found out that he bench pressed 315 lbs since from my knowledge, they don't do bench pressing as part of their training.

And then I found out the only source was from an anonymous poster on answers.com http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_much_c...ao_bench_press

You now deserve that Red K you were asking for.