PROOF: Pac isnt moving up in weight, Hes been at 147 against Diaz

[trainhard_187]

Pac doesn't have to struggle to lost weight now because all he has to worry about is eating enough everyday to burn calories for his workouts. He doesn't need to rehydrate a lot like he did earlier in his career.

Exactly what I am trying to prove. Team Pacs focus isnt trying to make the weight rather more on training..

Pac has had his speed and power back when he fought Diaz and Pac weighed in at 147 that night..

It seems like Pac has moved up in weight to fight bigger men but really its Pac fighting at his natural weight using his speed against bigger men

[War Dinamita]

Exactly what I am trying to prove. Team Pacs focus isnt trying to make the weight rather more on training..

Pac has had his speed and power back when he fought Diaz and Pac weighed in at 147 that night..

It seems like Pac has moved up in weight to fight bigger men but really its Pac fighting at his natural weight using his speed against bigger men

Yeah, I agree with your statement.

He has gotten stronger and bigger since he's fighting at his natural weight.

[trainhard_187]

I think people now think he is on PED's because he doesnt , or didnt, want to take the tests, and that after the Cotto fight, Floyd Snr couldnt believe he could have absorbed the punches (and produced such power) aainsyt Cotto.

I could barely believe he took some of those uppercuts against Margrito.

He has an amzing chin.




IMO his ability to hurt bigger men is amazing, but much of it is due to his improved technique with his right hand, and great combinations, movement and timing. He has improved a great deal. Plus the bigger men are easier to hit. They cant cope with his speed.

Floyd Sr. made that statment that Pac was on PEDs after Pac was absorbing Cottos punches which you stated below..

Now how the hell does any PED help a fighter absorb punches easier is what gets me..

Vargas was on a PED he got KOed..

PED's dont help a fighter absorb punches.. I HIGHLY DOUBT THAT..

[PEBBLES!]

So Pac is a natural JWW, WW?


Thoughts?

[trainhard_187]

Yeah, I agree with your statement.

He has gotten stronger and bigger since he's fighting at his natural weight.

Team Pac was smart manipulating the weigh in system which I dont get why fighters fight at a certain weight and then come in at different weights the next day..

If we still had the same day weigh in system, this would all be different. Instead they got people thinking Pac is moving up in weight when actually he was always around WW but this time around not having to come down to 130-135 where he would have to also focus on making that weight..

[trainhard_187]

So Pac is a natural JWW, WW?


Thoughts?

Hes always had his speed and power even prior to all these bigger men, hence his weigh in weight against Diaz which was at 147. They manipulated the weigh in system to make people think Pac is moving up in weight when actually he was always around JWW WW with his speed and power fighting bigger men, using his speed as an advantage..

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good thread and im glad good points are brought up.. props to u TS!!

[Flawless*]

Lets that was more like a three punch combination right after Pac throw a punch and was off balance.. at 3:17..

AND?

What should hurt more?

3 straight hard combo by 160 Cotto with you knowing its coming

Or

3 Punch combo being off balance by a 141 Pound JMM

[trainhard_187]

AND?

What should hurt more?

3 straight hard combo by 160 Cotto with you knowing its coming

Or

3 Punch combo being off balance by a 141 Pound JMM

When did Cotto hit Pac with a Flush 3 punch Combo? I dont recall that?

Cotto hit him with and upper cut but again, this is off topic.

All im trying to prove is that Pac has had his speed and power since Diaz.. Team Pac focused less on coming down in weight and more on strategy.

And yes even Pac admitted that Cottos punches hurt, even Margaritos.

[*2TOUGH*]

so the coward didnt ACTUALLY move up?

i highly doubt pac could weigh in at 154lbs and beat margarito or cotto.

the coward chooses to weigh in less to keep his speed advantage.

if he is sooooo great he should move up properly and not drain fighters.