I've never seen these questions answered.

[Reloaded]

They see a special fighter doing special things. I know what they feel- fear.

Lets say that is true ,,, how does it justify Manny saying no and trying to water it down ,,,,, does Manny advocate PEDS in sport ? because thats the message he is putting out ,,,,,

Its not about Floyd asking , its irelevant who or why the question was popped , its the opponent asking !! , and I dont care what opponet it is , if they request better drug testing in a bout they are contesting then it should be a resounding automatic yes from the other side , thats what a champion does ,, the crime in this is not just against boxing , its against World Sport trying to stamp out PEDS ,,,, you wanna make Manny a God , well at least make him a fair fighter first , Im sick to death of him having advantages over opponets he stacks fights his way , Floyd wants a even fair fight .

[sigrab jr]

Yes, Pac was at fault the first time, no doubt. The big problem now is if Floyd offered a 14 day cut off the first time, why not a 14 day cut off the second time? Because he's mad Pac didn't agree to it the first time? That's not right. He's cool with 14 days the first time but not cool with 7 days now. Yes, its mostly his fault because of that. That's not very hard to see. You tell me why its ok of Floyd to refuse a 7 day cut off now when that would have been cool with him the first time.

In the second negotiations, Mayweather said the 14 day cut off will be off the table if they don't take it. Arum went on to say that Team Mayweather never offered a 14 day cutoff and was already planning a Clottey fight during the negotiations. Then the mediator came out and said that Team Mayweather did offer a 14 day cut off but Arum refused it. Arum was interviewed about it and admitted to lying and said Team Mayweather did offer a 14 cut off, it was on here in Boxingscene main news.

So how was that Floyd's fault if Arum clearly had no intentions of ever making the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight? Maybe now he's finally serious about it. Look at Floyd's past negotiations, he's very easy to work with. Pacquiao on the other hand, look at DLH/Hatton/Cotto, those fights looked to be completely dead at points, all because of Pacquiao.

[Taranazan]

like the title says, I've never seen a Pac fan answer these questions. They post pics of food, deflect (Meaning, they ask a question instead of answering), spew insults, but they never just answer.

1. Out of all the reasons/excuses Top Rank gave for Manny not testing, which do you ride with most? (Don't come with the "Manny agreed to all testing) because he did not, if he did we'd already have seen the fight.

2. Floyd asked for testing from contract to fight night, Manny offered 3 tests and 30 day cutoff.
Then Manny (after 24 7 footage) offered 24 days, and Floyd offered 14.....
Now manny wants 7 day cutoff.......................
............Why did'nt Manny accept 14 days when it was offered?..................... He's willing to do 7 but not 14?..................

I'm just asking these 2 questions so I get a better grip on how they think.....

I am not a Pac fan or a Floyd fan (I am both actually), but here is my answer to your questions.

1- All I heard from Pac camp is that he feels giving blood too close to the fight would weaken him. I do not agree that it would, but since it is what he believes, it would be a disadvantage on the mental side of his preparation. I honestly never read anything "official" about Pac being affraid of needles or stuff like that. All I read about it was on the forums. Until someone can give me an official quote of Pac using that as an excuse, I will doubt it. It could very well be a random poster on a forum saying that as a joke and someone else using it and it starts spinning (that's how rumors generally start).

2- Manny agreed to 14 days, but Floyd withdrew the offer. I really can't see a good reason for the withdrawal. Usually, that kind of thing happens in a negociation when there is an advantage that can be gained from an agreement before a precise date, advantage that would not exist after that day , after which the offer is withdrawn. But this is not the case in the Pac-Floyd situation. And now that Pac has agreed to 7 days cutoff, I really don't understand why it isn't enough for some people. If Pac uses something illegal, he has do use it in actual training (there is not much training in the week before the fight) for it to have any effect.

Just my opinion.

[LMFAO]

Why doesn't Manny just take Random OST with no cutoff now?

He's got all the time in the world to "recover" for his next fight so he won't be weak for it.

Plus he would make the Mayweather's and all the doubters in Boxing and people who feel he might be on something look like fools for accusing him?

He and his team have stated they have no problem with the tests and will take them anytime, anyplace so why not now?

Manny's not in training now and it would ruin Mayweather's request and if he's found clean put even more pressure on Mayweather to make the fight.

[Walt Liquor]

because OST is not a part of professional boxing.

[megadeth]

Manny wanted to make the fight happen, which is why he was willing to bend to 20 days, then 14, then 7. this what happens in negotiations, one side has to meet halfway. Floyd apparently doesnt.

Why did you not ask why Floyd made stricter demands each negotiation? Arent there 2 sides to a story? Do you only look at the world in floyds perspective? is that definitively being biased?

How are u "bending" to 20days, then 14, then 7, when your team originally agreed to full OST? Why are u ignoring that part? So, you tell me who met half way if Pac started with full OST, then moved to 30 days then 24 days and Floyd met him in the middle at 14? Why don't u call Pac the "duck" from walking away from that? Are u gonna do that? You are asking about bias? What about that?

[jack2x]

Lets say that is true ,,, how does it justify Manny saying no and trying to water it down ,,,,, does Manny advocate PEDS in sport ? because thats the message he is putting out ,,,,,

Its not about Floyd asking , its irelevant who or why the question was popped , its the opponent asking !! , and I dont care what opponet it is , if they request better drug testing in a bout they are contesting then it should be a resounding automatic yes from the other side , thats what a champion does ,, the crime in this is not just against boxing , its against World Sport trying to stamp out PEDS ,,,, you wanna make Manny a God , well at least make him a fair fighter first , Im sick to death of him having advantages over opponets he stacks fights his way , Floyd wants a even fair fight .

++++I'M SURE THIS VICTOR CONTE'S QUOTE IS VERY FAIR AND NOBODY CAN DENY IT ESPECIALLY FLOYD JR. AND HIS FANS SINCE CONTE IS EXPERT ON ROID/PEDS ---------- "For whatever claims they said about Floyd being drug testing for the Mosley fight, he was tested 19 days before the fight. Let's get real here. Floyd's saying my way or the highway, well that's BS. It's got to be a compromise and there's never going 100% (accurate test) and we need to acknowledge that and I think Manny has made an effort to compromise and move to Floyd's direction and I think Manny needs to be applauded for that." -- Victor Conte

[rollycortez]

demands from a boxing diva . he thinks his bigger than boxing.without floyd boxing will survive and to the consternation of *****s why pacman would not undergo OST .


Guys wake up from dreamland oist! KFC would never fight pacman and that 2nd time he ducked. and he ducked many fighters at their peak of their careers. We know ,we all know that he knows what we know that he IS ducking again.

PACMAN THEIR WORLD

[carts]

simple question.. WHY???
floyd: easy fight easy money fight me pac!!!
manny: ok lets fight!!
floyd: uhm uhm.. lets do a drug test!!!

floyd didnt asked this shiet on JMM which he claimed JMM is much better fighter than manny..

now go figure WHY and answer this shiet if u can!!

MY ANSWER?? FLOYD IS FAKKING SCARED OF PAC!! TRUE STORY AND ADMIT IT!!

[al-Xander]

demands from a boxing diva . he thinks his bigger than boxing.without floyd boxing will survive and to the consternation of *****s why pacman would not undergo OST .


Guys wake up from dreamland oist! KFC would never fight pacman and that 2nd time he ducked. and he ducked many fighters at their peak of their careers. We know ,we all know that he knows what we know that he IS ducking again.

PACMAN THEIR WORLD

Thread should end right here. It's not like this is the first
time Floyd ducked a fighter. It's been a pattern documented
by numerous boxing writers in many parts of the globe.
So this 14, 7 day, etc, not being okay is truly embarrassing,
the fact that his fight with Mosley was cut-off 18 days
before the fight.

I'm sorry gentleman, no judge and jury in the would agree
with these inconsistencies supported by a pattern of ducking.

Anyways, if the intent of these threads is to focus on Pac,
I don't think they're working. They just remind people of the
absurdity of the demands, thus justifying the cowardice label.