I've never seen these questions answered.

[vercingetorix3]

1. I don't ride with any of the excuses. Manny's "I'm scared of needles" excuse was ridiculous.

Then the egoes of Pacquiao, Roach, Mayweather Jr., Koncz, Ellerbe, Arum, Mayweather, Sr., helped to get in the way of the fight.

2. I don't know, take it up with him. Maybe because after giving it more thought, he decided that he was being an idiot for declining so much money for a few milliliters of blood. Pure speculation, though.

I say if Floyd really wanted to put pressure on Manny, he should have strongly advocated for as many fighters as possible to submit to OSDT instead of insinuating that Pacquiao is on "power pellets".

[cixthree]

Same reason he retired the first time. He wanted to wait for someone else to beat the guy he's scared to fight.

Again, no answer....... good job pac fans

[Pudgemeister]

1. Manny truly believes that blood testing weakens him. Floyd would be the biggest fight of his life, and he wouldn't want to go into it weakened. Even if it is physically not an issue, a mental problem at the elite level of boxing can be just as significant. This video shows how Manny thinks blood testing weakens him. He believes it is why he lost the Morales fight.



2. Why will Manny do 7 but not 14? It's called negotiation. You offer to pay 2000 for a car, but that guy won't budge, so you pay 3000. At least he's trying to compromise with Floyd's unreasonable demands to make the fight happen.

There are your answers.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

if Floyd is the cause for it not happeniong the 2nd time, manny was the cause the first time. Is that what you failed to mention?

Yes, Pac was at fault the first time, no doubt. The big problem now is if Floyd offered a 14 day cut off the first time, why not a 14 day cut off the second time? Because he's mad Pac didn't agree to it the first time? That's not right. He's cool with 14 days the first time but not cool with 7 days now. Yes, its mostly his fault because of that. That's not very hard to see. You tell me why its ok of Floyd to refuse a 7 day cut off now when that would have been cool with him the first time.

[cixthree]

1. I don't ride with any of the excuses. Manny's "I'm scared of needles" excuse was ridiculous.

Then the egoes of Pacquiao, Roach, Mayweather Jr., Koncz, Ellerbe, Arum, Mayweather, Sr., helped to get in the way of the fight.

2. I don't know, take it up with him. Maybe because after giving it more thought, he decided that he was being an idiot for declining so much money for a few milliliters of blood. Pure speculation, though.

I say if Floyd really wanted to put pressure on Manny, he should have strongly advocated for as many fighters as possible to submit to OSDT instead of insinuating that Pacquiao is on "power pellets".

UMMM, was'nt it speculation on Team Pacs part that Marg took Hydroxycut? They still wanted him tested...

[shogunn]

Manny wanted to make the fight happen, which is why he was willing to bend to 20 days, then 14, then 7. this what happens in negotiations, one side has to meet halfway. Floyd apparently doesnt.

Why did you not ask why Floyd made stricter demands each negotiation? Arent there 2 sides to a story? Do you only look at the world in floyds perspective? is that definitively being biased?


and why did he go on vacation when everyone in the world knew manny was after him? the most popular excuse from floyds gaylords was, "trust me, its not true". 3 months later they just mention drug testing, while floyd is still on vacation.

[[ DUBBZZ ]]

Again, no answer....... good job pac fans

Want an answer? I don't know. I can speculate that Pac truly believes that needles weaken him, I can speculate that his ego wouldn't allow him to let Floyd dictate the rules. There are alot of questions about Floyd that have gone unanswered as well, like why did he ask for the tests in the first place? Or why did his team deny negotiating with Pac's team earlier this year. When HBO themselves confirmed the negotiations were taking place. Instead of answering, he just chose to ignore the question and go on "vacation". Truth is: no one knows why either side did what they did but right now, as it stands: Pac's side claims they accepted whatever terms were discussed and Floyd's side has remained silent. If its because he fears Roger will not be available, then just say so. If its because he's got his own legal problems, then just say so. Instead, he chooses to avoid the question altogether. That in itself is suspect. So if you're trying to redirect su****ion on Pac, it ain't working. No ones buying this "I wanna clean up the sport BS".

[Alibata]

UMMM, was'nt it speculation on Team Pacs part that Marg took Hydroxycut? They still wanted him tested...

Did he fight Margarito despite the speculation?

[Stigma]

like the title says, I've never seen a Pac fan answer these questions. They post pics of food, deflect (Meaning, they ask a question instead of answering), spew insults, but they never just answer.

1. Out of all the reasons/excuses Top Rank gave for Manny not testing, which do you ride with most? (Don't come with the "Manny agreed to all testing) because he did not, if he did we'd already have seen the fight.

2. Floyd asked for testing from contract to fight night, Manny offered 3 tests and 30 day cutoff.
Then Manny (after 24 7 footage) offered 24 days, and Floyd offered 14.....
Now manny wants 7 day cutoff.......................
............Why did'nt Manny accept 14 days when it was offered?..................... He's willing to do 7 but not 14?..................

I'm just asking these 2 questions so I get a better grip on how they think.....

I'm not Filippino but I'll answer anyway.

1. If he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to. It's as simple as that. It's not mandatory. If he feels he's drained by it, then that's what he feels. I can't change or disprove it and neither can you of anybody else, so it's pointless to dwell. It's two egos trying to impose themselves on one another. Negotiations are give and take by definition.

2. Who cares? Again it's a negotiation process. One goes high, the other goes low. A better question would be why 14 days was good and 7 days is unacceptable.

[deuce_drop]

these questions are nebulous................


first off, manny doesn't have to agree to anything that his opponent demands outside of the rules of any of the sanctioning/commisisioning bodies. floyd came with zero evidence to make such claims and demands. floyd has never asked anyone prior to the potential pacquiao match up, why now? is floyd the only one who can move up in weight and be successful???? because that's what i'm getting. where does floyds jealously come from???? he was the one who retired and left the sport, boxing wasn't and isnt going to wait for him, it moves as fast as time.

so where does floyd get off for making such demands???? all the while he shoots a substance into his hands to ALLOW HIM TO WITHSTAND THE PAIN, if that isnt a contradiction and double standard i don't know what is?


and as for cut off dates, there is too much he said she said to really peg it down, because we have different accounts coming from different angles at all times about the cut off date and times, but i will say this! in every other fight the drug testing comes after the fight because a failure in drug testing prior to the fight cancels the fight and a WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE LOSE MONEY, do you really think the promoter wants to risk losing money? the commissions? sanctioning bodies? and everyone else that stands to make money? or would they ALL rather have the fight go through, test afterwards like they already do and have done before, then penalize the fighter and take his money and the powers that be make more money off the fight!?!?!?! that sounds about right to me, which is the way it's been done forever in boxing......

you would think, those who are putting up the cash would be putting up the fight to not let any of these premadonna rules get in the way of their money, IT WOULD BE IN THEIR BEST INTERESTS TO HAVE THE FIGHT GO ON AS NORMAL, that way the reduce their risk.............


but you like to think it's a pacquiao drug testing needle thing, when mayweather went and pissed up everyones flag pole and is risking their potential investments..................

there is a lot more to this than you thnk, quit thinking it's so on the surface easy, when it's not and really not about drug testing at all, it's about the bottom line, contracts, and the biggest fee of them all, INSURANCE................



get out of the left right mind set...............