The misconception between curiosity and hate...

[deejd]

Hahaha so true and as an "avid fan" he would've notice that there was NO OST/NO TEST to most fights save the one he mentioned. What? Hundreds/thousands of fights happened per year and since then he can only mention ONE involving a fighter who confessed to using EPO.

WOW, school is closed due to incompetence.

That one fight was current.

Now find me the fight where a fighter was penalized ten million dollars for every pound over...? Let me know

And the fights where titles were put on the line at catchweights?

[deejd]

The fact that you're condoning FLOYD's refusal to subject himself to the same testing that MOST BOXERS are subject to makes you a ***** faithful.

If you want random testing, go make your own boxing division with complete rules. If you wish to follow the CURRENT BOXING you say you are an "AVID FAN", just stfu.

Sure, maybe I'll call it the CSF.

It's funny because as far as I'm concerned, boxing commissions issue '54 lb. titles to a fighter who fights at the contractual weight limit of 154 lbs.

The same goes for '47.

And last time I checked, The Ring Magazine title isn't an actual title that's issued by a sanctioning body.

[IAMBIAZED]

Now find me the fight where a fighter was penalized ten million dollars for every pound over...? Let me know

-- Short memory are you teacher. Didn't FMJ went 2 pounds overweight on their fight and had to pay up?

And the fights where titles were put on the line at catchweights?

-- Isn't this up to the commission to decide? They decided this is alright so who are we to b!tch? Why don't you write a letter to them explaining your feelings, demand an apology and have their president write a public apology if it makes you feel better

[comanick]

Just admit that you don't want the fight to happen. You seem to be more of a Floyd fan than a Boxing Fan. Otherwise you'll criticize BOTH teams and provide a solution on how to make THE FIGHT. So the more you defend Floyd, it further proves that You don't want the megafight to happen...PERIOD.

I think the underlying point that alot of people refuse to see is that by definition you can not compromise on random testing because it is random. To compromise on that means it is just testing.

Lets forget that floyd asked the question and just look at the question in general. I actually think it is a good idea.I am all for the betterment of the sport and it has to start somewhere. This fight would be the biggest fight ever and knowing both of the fighters are 100% clean in this steroid age is a great thing. And manny as the #1 fighter in the sport should actually support that. But he is not and he has made alot of different excuses and even flat out lied about it. now i never ever thought manny was taking anything.i never suspected as he was moving up in weight. Never. But him not wanting to do the test and all the excuses have actually made me wonder. And thats the thing, its not floyd anymore. You do have alot of people out there that are now suspious for the same reasons i am. Forget floyd, people out there actually believe this. That right there would make me want to do to prove them all wrong. Because if i was clean then it really wouldnt matter.

The crazy thing is i think that he is clean. I honestly think he did all this just to by more time and make some extra money. If you all rememer back in november of last year freddie roach himself said that we will need a few more fights before we fight mayweather. That was straight from his trainers mouth and look what happened.

[deejd]

So? The fight didn't happen. Why can't you move on? What exactly are you trying to achieve here?

My point is that Pacquiao, solely, is holding the sport hostage. I absolutely want Mayweather-Pacquiao to happen, but it won't simply because Pacquiao won't agree to testing although Mayweather's agreed to everything Pacquiao's side has requested.

[maguirre]

He wants to start a new boxing commission and he wants to recruit people on NSB.

He probably thinks he's winning converts in here. Well, I see the same *****s repeating the same thang. Can't imagine defending this crap based on a crackhead's testimony. Just can't. I'd rather hide it. These guys don't even belong in any regular fan club. They belong in a cultist group.

[deejd]

I think the underlying point that alot of people refuse to see is that by definition you can not compromise on random testing because it is random. To compromise on that means it is just testing.

Lets forget that floyd asked the question and just look at the question in general. I actually think it is a good idea.I am all for the betterment of the sport and it has to start somewhere. This fight would be the biggest fight ever and knowing both of the fighters are 100% clean in this steroid age is a great thing. And manny as the #1 fighter in the sport should actually support that. But he is not and he has made alot of different excuses and even flat out lied about it. now i never ever thought manny was taking anything.i never suspected as he was moving up in weight. Never. But him not wanting to do the test and all the excuses have actually made me wonder. And thats the thing, its not floyd anymore. You do have alot of people out there that are now suspious for the same reasons i am. Forget floyd, people out there actually believe this. That right there would make me want to do to prove them all wrong. Because if i was clean then it really wouldnt matter.

The crazy thing is i think that he is clean. I honestly think he did all this just to by more time and make some extra money. If you all rememer back in november of last year freddie roach himself said that we will need a few more fights before we fight mayweather. That was straight from his trainers mouth and look what happened.

Stellar post, like you, I myself had never thought Pacquiao was using. Even after the Hatton fight when Sr. voiced his opinion, I thought he was a clown for saying that. Even after Cotto, I still thought before that fight Pacquiao would cruise. It was Pacquiao and his camps reaction (and ignorant statements from Ariza) to the random testing request that led to speculation.

As far as Roach stating they needed more fights, I don't know, he claimed that Mayweather was the easiest fight of him, Cotto, and Mosley...? I honestly believe that Pacquiao should have used random testing in his fights against Clottey and/or Margarito just to make Mayweather look terrible while showing he was clean, but he didn't.

[comanick]

Now find me the fight where a fighter was penalized ten million dollars for every pound over...? Let me know

-- Short memory are you teacher. Didn't FMJ went 2 pounds overweight on their fight and had to pay up?

And the fights where titles were put on the line at catchweights?

-- Isn't this up to the commission to decide? They decided this is alright so who are we to b!tch? Why don't you write a letter to them explaining your feelings, demand an apology and have their president write a public apology if it makes you feel better

The commision has rules for alot of things but i think people who dont agree with floyd use that only when it fits their point. Meaning the comission has rules/standard for ring size, glove size, weight penaltys, etc. but it is ok for manny to not go by those standards when it works in his favor. What im trying to say is if you want to go the comission route then go all the way. Do everything by their rules. But here we have fighter A who picks and chooses what rules to follow but he is well liked by the public so is ok, then we have fighter B who does the same exact thing but its not ok because he is not well liked. It is hypocritical.

[zeidrich]

does a 0 day testing really will work?

if u said 7 days is a not enough, then ur saying that there is a steroid that can be used on a span of 6 days...

can you just use that 6 day steroid while vacationing or maybe 2 months and 7 days before the fight?

is full random drug test the one u need to persue... 1 whole year testing? because i personally do... this 2 month testing is ****** and would not work... and its even documented that 0 days = 7 days = 18 days by nsac...

btw olympic drug testing is a whole year round not 2 months testing... so get off floyd **** and tell him his crusade is also a failure, 2 months will not gonna work...

[deejd]

He probably thinks he's winning converts in here. Well, I see the same *****s repeating the same thang. Can't imagine defending this crap based on a crackhead's testimony. Just can't. I'd rather hide it. These guys don't even belong in any regular fan club. They belong in a cultist group.

It just seems like Pacquiao followers are okay with cheating should that be going on. Defending Pacquiao's refusal to test is almost like stating that Pacquiao needs the extra help to compete in these bouts.