joe louis beat a guy 6 inches taller 70 pounds heavier....

[FLYBOY]

Also David HAye beat Valuev,

[ThePrince]

Well, even now some say he is.

Exactly, plenty of people have Joe Louis as their #1 all time HW. So what is the point of this thread exactly?

[Russian Crushin]

the HW division is different from other divisions

wifebeater was a huge favorite vs. baldomir, but potshotted to a UD. not impressive. pac could've did the same thing, but instead stood toe to toe and beat the everliving ***** outta marg.


pac is the people's champ

Baldomir was probably a 30-1 underdog against Floyd

He was a 16-1 underdog against Judah

[BrooklynBomber]

Game, set and match.

[Seleção No. 13]

[BrooklynBomber]

Also David HAye beat Valuev,

Chagaev beating Valuev was much more impressive. David Haye barely squeaked by Valuev, Chagaev beat a younger, undefeated valuev in a much more impressive fashion. Hell, Larry Donald beat valuev quite bad as well, it was only bad officiating that withheld his victory.

[Scott9945]

Chagaev beating Valuev was much more impressive. David Haye barely squeaked by Valuev, Chagaev beat a younger, undefeated valuev in a much more impressive fashion. Hell, Larry Donald beat valuev quite bad as well, it was only bad officiating that withheld his victory.

Every word of this is true. You do not want to watch Haye-Valuev if you can avoid it.

[myCoCainE]

Everybody seems to forget Pacquiao was a champion in flyweight and now breaking orbital bones of a 165 guy. It's unprecedented. Nobody else is going to be doing what Pacquiao is doing now. And don't tell me, he's grown into the weight. Still, NO former flyweight has ever fought as high as SMW maintaining the speed and power. Well, I think there's one that I can't remember. But Jesus, why can't the guy just get his well-deserved props.

[playaballer1]

Those two asian guys got messed up pretty bad loll

[Hitman932]

Every word of this is true. You do not want to watch Haye-Valuev if you can avoid it.

Haye-Valuev was without a doubt the worst heavyweight title fight of my lifetime.

The only other fight that was nearly as bad were Rahman-Barrett for the interim WBC belt and technically that wasn't even a title fight.