If Floyd really wants the fight, and isn't scared, then he'll negotiate.

[Pocket Dogs!]

OST is necessary...money, ring size, and gloves are negotiable

Only in Floyd's fights. So much for being a pioneer in drug testing, eh Floyd?

[$tate of Mind]

Pacquiao was just in a fight, but bob arum is doing the negotiating, and he said he's contacting mayweather this week, and it's up to him to respond. And Mayweather hasn't fought for a year, so what is there to wait for if he wants the fight?

Mayweather fought this past May *******. You just continue to confirm that you're a ******* who doesn't really follow boxing.......

[Rickety Cricket]

Mayweather would rather fight women since he knows he can win those fights.

[$tate of Mind]

30 days to 24 to 14 to 7 vs. 14 days to 0.

You`re even dumb enough not to see a trend.

Floyd is ducking right between your nose and you still dont see it.

I even believe MP agreed to 0 but the Team and Arum would not allow it, and that when Floyd felt the Pac Team is about to agree to 0, he took a vacation.

Shame on you *****s.

Why doesn't Pac agree to random OST if he's clean? Spare me the he agreed but uncle Bob blah, blah, blah. If he can have catchweight title fights that give him an advantage he can agree to OST.......

[Pullcounter]

30 days to 24 to 14 to 7 vs. 14 days to 0.

You`re even dumb enough not to see a trend.

Floyd is ducking right between your nose and you still dont see it.

I even believe MP agreed to 0 but the Team and Arum would not allow it, and that when Floyd felt the Pac Team is about to agree to 0, he took a vacation.

Shame on you *****s.

exactly. team pac is trying to pick a fight. team wifebeater is trying to avoid a fight.

it's obvious team wifebeater is shook

[letsgobrady]

You know, like Pacquiao does- from 30 days to 24 to 14 to 7.

If you really want the fight, then you negotiate. You don't just turn down the other side completely and pretend they don't exist, and don't budge an inch on your demands. Not only did mayweather not budge, but he backed down and went backwards- from 14 days to 0.

That shows you don't want the fight. Which means either you're scared or don't think you can beat him.

did floyd try to bring down the 10 mill a lb penalty from 8 to 6 to 4? so why did manny try to turn the random drug testin into a non random drug testin?
manny never compromised.manny didn't compromise when he went from 30 days to 24 days the 24 days was something arum asked for because there was footage of manny takin a blood test less than 30 days before a fight so they had to budge from 30 days or not they would look like they were scared and lyin and as far as the 14 days that was offered that was offered by floyd not manny and manny and his team try to say it was never offered but than arum says that floyd was not lyin that he did offer 14 days but they were goin to fight clottey. where in those negotiations was manny compromisin to try to make the fight? it seems to me like floyd was the only 1that compromised

[ThunderWolf]

Why doesn't Pac agree to random OST if he's clean? Spare me the he agreed but uncle Bob blah, blah, blah. If he can have catchweight title fights that give him an advantage he can agree to OST.......

Because OST by Floyd is really about MONEY. And any inch the Pac Team gives up in the negotiation, they lose a confidential percentage that Floyd demands. And anything that Floyd gives up in negotiations costs MONEY.

Man, you seem to know nothing about boxing, a newbie in life and in these forums.

Just take a vacation like your idol.

Remember, even Mosley (Vice Pres. of GBP)-Sergio and Rafael-JuanMa had no OST.

There is no crusade here.

[cixthree]

Why did'nt Manny just take 14 when it was offered? The Floyd/Mosley fight kinda made Pac/Floyd seem better, so it put Floyd in the drivers seat at the time. "Hence the 0 cutoff"..
I think that's negotiating, going from 0 to 14 days. And Pac wanted 30 then 24?, he should have taken 14 from the jump if he's willing to do 7...
Or is it just me

[shogun1123]

What part of random OST or no fight don't you understand? If Pac is clean why doesn't he just agree to random OST? OST wouldn't be a big deal if Pacquiao simply agreed to it. If he can demand catchweight title fights why can't he agree to random OST?

Dude forget it, They not listening to simple logic or common sense. *******'s don't care about boxing. They are only concerned with nationalistic pride.

PACMAN finally give them something to be proud about. He makes them feel good about there culture and where their from.


Any excuse PACMAN gives them about not wanting to be tested makes perfect sense to them.

Every BUM Pacman beats makes him an ATG in their eyes.


I gave up on trying logic on them long ago. However I am happy for them, I lived in the Philippines for 2 years during my Air Force days. They really needed something to be proud of and Pacman gives him that, GOD bless him for it.

[MindBat]

Why could Shane agree to full testing with no cut-off dates, and Manny needs cut-off dates to train?

That still doesn't make sense.