did arum learn nothing from the last time,he cant go around telling the reporters im gonna do this and that ...floyd hates anyone trying to tell him what or how to do something.If this fight is to get made it will have to be on floydterms not bobs!
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Originally posted by waxfondler View Postfloyd fanboys are a bunch of clowns (actually, any blind fanboy is... these pac fanatics are pretty delusional too)
if pacs resume is laughable, floyd is on the same boat... the more these fanboys discredit one fighters accomplishments, it completely derails their stance on their fave fighters wins as well.... ******ed.
so if both fighters faced outclassed/lesser opponents? pac clearly dominated more convincingly.
FLOYD DID NOT RUIN ANY FIGHTER before pac got to them.... if you think otherwise, wake up. floyd doesnt "ruin" fighters. LOL.
its really tit-for-tat with these two guys....
floyd:
• beat faded oscar, BUT barely did so...
• embarrassed ricky
• beat jmm, BUT marquez had to jump up 2 divisions
• embarrassed shane, BUT mora exposed how faded shane really was
pac:
• embarrassed oscar, BUT oscar was weight-drained
• demolished/ended ricky
• demolished cotto, BUT was cotto damaged goods? IMO, no
• dominated clottey, BUT clottey? really?
• demolished/dominated margs, BUT so did shane
if pac is "required" to fight martinez/p-will/etc. to prove himself,
i assume floyd is required to do so as well.... but floyd fanboys are too quick to excuse floyds shortcomings, and actually justify floyds "vacation".... although floydboys were quick to label shane a ducker when he wanted a vacation.... bottom line, floyd is choosing not to fight ANYBODY.... at least pac is getting work in... as a fight fan, i appreciate this....
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostSorry, try again. Come back when you get it. I'm serious.
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Originally posted by waxfondler View Postfloyd fanboys are a bunch of clowns (actually, any blind fanboy is... these pac fanatics are pretty delusional too)
if pacs resume is laughable, floyd is on the same boat... the more these fanboys discredit one fighters accomplishments, it completely derails their stance on their fave fighters wins as well.... ******ed.
so if both fighters faced outclassed/lesser opponents? pac clearly dominated more convincingly.
FLOYD DID NOT RUIN ANY FIGHTER before pac got to them.... if you think otherwise, wake up. floyd doesnt "ruin" fighters. LOL.
its really tit-for-tat with these two guys....
floyd:
• beat faded oscar, BUT barely did so...
• embarrassed ricky
• beat jmm, BUT marquez had to jump up 2 divisions
• embarrassed shane, BUT mora exposed how faded shane really was
pac:
• embarrassed oscar, BUT oscar was weight-drained
• demolished/ended ricky
• demolished cotto, BUT was cotto damaged goods? IMO, no
• dominated clottey, BUT clottey? really?
• demolished/dominated margs, BUT so did shane
if pac is "required" to fight martinez/p-will/etc. to prove himself,
i assume floyd is required to do so as well.... but floyd fanboys are too quick to excuse floyds shortcomings, and actually justify floyds "vacation".... although floydboys were quick to label shane a ducker when he wanted a vacation.... bottom line, floyd is choosing not to fight ANYBODY.... at least pac is getting work in... as a fight fan, i appreciate this....
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Originally posted by bluetuazon View Postdude dont act like as if u know whats inside the stipulated contract....both of us im pretty sure are not insiders in their respective camps...drug testing is a commision standard...and floyd is not the commision...if he really wanted to fight pac and improve his legacy he would have just manned up and fight...
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I can take off my favoritism but can a *******? People love to compare the records of Floyd and Manny and when you look at the impressive names Manny has faced if your not a real boxing fan you can get caught in the hype. The difference between Floyd's record and Manny's is when they fought their opponents. It's clear to see that Manny caught Barrera and Morales in the middle of their rivalry and loss to Morales. When you look at it the only real challenge Manny has faced was a war worn Morales and Marquez and we all know what happen against Marquez.
Then Manny fought:
Wasted Oscar (see the Forbes fight)
Damaged Hatton (see Collazo and PBF fights)
Damaged Cotto (see the Judah, Mosley, Margarito and Clottey wars)
Useless Clottey (see Margarito and Cotto fights)
Damaged Magarito (see the Clottey, Cotto and Mosley fights)
Realtalk: Manny does what he has to but he is the product of hype and great matchmaking
Now Floyd beat:
38-1-1 Hernandez in his 2nd year as a pro for the world title
Unbeaten 33-0 KO artist Corrales for the undisputed crown @130
Linear 135 champ Castillo twice
Gatti on a roll @140 for the title
Corley @140 former champion coming off a split dec. loss to very hot Zab
Zab and Baldomire @47
Hatton while he was still undefeated
Oscar at his natural weight 154 and far above Floyd's
Marquez when he was being avoided by Manny and P4P#2
Shane when he was being avoided by Manny, #1 @47 and #3 P4P
No bias. There is no comparison. Floyd has the far better record.Last edited by Sugar Q; 11-15-2010, 04:30 PM.
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