Pacquiao will SHOCK the world when he STOPS Mayweather.

[Steven Adams]

Great, but does he have power? Does he have offence?

Or is Pac going to eat Floyd's best shots while returning with 4 or 5 of his own that come from weird angles at incredible speeds?

As great as Floyd's defense is, I don't think it's better than Pac's offense.

The question is if Floyd can take Pac's early onslaught. If he can absorb punishment, then maybe he'll make it out of the 12th.

What's guaranteed is Pac landing a glove on Floyd's chin. Can he take it for 12 rounds? Floyd's never fought anyone as accurate or as unorthodox as Pacquiao.

Will he be able to see the punches coming or will he be afraid to open up?

I just wish the damn fight would happen with no bull**** from either camp.

IMO Floyd wont need power to beat Pac, and we all know Pac can hang with the big hitters so theres no way Floyd is KOing Pac.

I have to disagree with the part in bold because I think your overrating Pacs offense

this is the last stats for what was in my eyes the last competitive bout for Pac since his last loss

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-manny-pacquiao-juan-manuel-marquez

I havent seen him do those numbers since... hes blitzing everyone cos of the styles

*cant believe i refered to compubox*

[Carpe Diem]

IMO Floyd wont need power to beat Pac, and we all know Pac can hang with the big hitters so theres no way Floyd is KOing Pac.

I have to disagree with the part in bold because I think your overrating Pacs offense

this is the last stats for what was in my eyes the last competitive bout for Pac since his last loss

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-manny-pacquiao-juan-manuel-marquez

I havent seen him do those numbers since... hes blitzing everyone cos of the styles

*cant believe i refered to compubox*

1+

If you're not gonna counter him and move out of distance before he capitalize with his own punches, he's gonna throws around 900+ total. He has improved, but he still has obvious flaws that only good/great counter punchers would make him pay.

[Steven Adams]

He knew the time frame in which he was going to be tested. Random blood testing, is a year round, in season and out of season process.

Floyd didn't do that. He only took the tests when he knew he was going to be tested.

your being politically correct now, doesn't change the fact that Pacs team refused the tests.

and I'm pretty sure Pac knocked him down in that fight as well.


How far do you want to go with this?

Pac faced a counter puncher and made him the canvas back kid.

and... your right... this could go into the next fights they had. i was just ****ing wit you man

[Phil Ivey]

How am I being biased? Pac had trouble against a counter puncher like Marquez but you have to ask yourself, if Pacquiao the same fighter since then? Hell no. A much better improved fighter when it comes to technique and everything.

Doesn't negate the fact that he has trouble with counter punchers.. and we all know Floyd is the best counter puncher in the game. To say Pac would beat Mayweather is one thing, but to call it easy work is laughable and vice versa.

[sigrab jr]

I'm telling you, if this fight ever takes place, Pacquiao will shock everyone when he stops Floyd. Floyd never fought someone with such power in both hands, foot work, foot speed, hand speed, and stamina - NEVER. The shoulder roll crap works when Floyd is fighting someone who throws less punches and MUCH slower. That **** is not going to work if he fights Pac. Not to mention, Floyd has some problems with southpaws. It's not a wonder why Mayweather doesn't want it, even after Pacquiao agreed to all his sissy demands.

There I said, he will STOP Mayweather and I would bet 300 million points if the fight ever happens.

Mosley, Judah, Corrales, Castillo. Had a bit of everything you mentioned there.

Pacquiao has never fought any one with an ounce of defense, lateral movement, and with the counterpnching of Mayweather.


Bookmarked this thread for the future. Will bump this bold thread after Mayweather wipes the floor with lil Pacquiao.

[sigrab jr]

Show us your evidence that Pac is on steroids, you moron. Pac already agreed to all the demands Sissyweather made and still no fight from Floyd. **** him.

Floyd made only one demand and Pacquiao didn't agree to it.

Pacquiao made 3 demands and Floyd agreed to them.

[Phil Ivey]

Great, but does he have power? Does he have offence?

Or is Pac going to eat Floyd's best shots while returning with 4 or 5 of his own that come from weird angles at incredible speeds?

As great as Floyd's defense is, I don't think it's better than Pac's offense.

The question is if Floyd can take Pac's early onslaught. If he can absorb punishment, then maybe he'll make it out of the 12th.

What's guaranteed is Pac landing a glove on Floyd's chin. Can he take it for 12 rounds? Floyd's never fought anyone as accurate or as unorthodox as Pacquiao.

Will he be able to see the punches coming or will he be afraid to open up?

I just wish the damn fight would happen with no bull**** from either camp.

Stop making the argument "OH FLoyd has never fought someone like Pac" - Pac has never fought ANYONE like Mayweather either..? The closest is probably Marquez in counter punching ability and Floyd's counter punching ability is far more superior, Floyd can hurt Manny and trust me Pac won't hit Floyd flush like he did with his other opponents. He struggled against Marquez and first Morales, both are decent counter punchers with good boxing skills - look at the list of Pac's recent opponents. It's ironic how you say Floyd has never fought anyone as accurate as Pac rofl? Are you forgetting Mayweather is the most ACCURATE puncher in the game right now? Pac can't fight like he did against Mayweather as he did with Margarito, Cotto - he would get punished - his punch output would be much lower.

[sigrab jr]

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Damn, almost 50 punches a round average, less. 619 in the whole fight. That would go down even more against Mayweather. Mayweather is also a counterpuncher like Marquez but he has defense and is bigger.

[Vasyl’s dad]

your being politically correct now, doesn't change the fact that Pacs team refused the tests.



and... your right... this could go into the next fights they had. i was just ****ing wit you man

You, nor anyone else can still make a good claim why Pac has to agree to any tests. They're not required by any commission or sanctioning body.

This whole deal about testing, is another one of Floyds excuses to avoid a prime welter weight. We seen it when he avoided Margarito, "nobody knows him, he has 4 losses", Cotto, "he needs to get his PPVs up", and now, Pacquiao, "hes ordinary and one dimensional and it would be easy work and easy money,


but he needs to take these tests because I want and even playing field and I want to clean up the sport".


Chale ese, for a guy who went 40 fights and deemed the commissions rules just fine,

this whole deal about random blood testing is a sham and nothing more than an excuse that backfired on him. He thought that by slandering the guys name, he would have the support of everyone behind him.

Mannys refusal to be Floyds ***** about demands have shown to have the opposite effect. The majority of people in this world don't cater to their accusers demands to "clear their name" just because someone accuses them. The majority of people will tell you, "you better have a damn good reason with evidence and proof of why I need to clear my name to you or anyone."


Even then, Manny conceded, "Ok, lets call his bluff. Lets do his ****** tests, I just want to fight."


"I I I'm not th-thinking about bo-boxing right now. I I I'm going on vacation to sp-spend time with my family."


Soon as Pac inks a deal to fight Tony,

Floyd is yapping it up about Manny, having dinner with Don King, attending fights and beating up his mothers kids.

[ThePunchingBag]

IMO Floyd wont need power to beat Pac, and we all know Pac can hang with the big hitters so theres no way Floyd is KOing Pac.

I have to disagree with the part in bold because I think your overrating Pacs offense

this is the last stats for what was in my eyes the last competitive bout for Pac since his last loss

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-manny-pacquiao-juan-manuel-marquez

I havent seen him do those numbers since... hes blitzing everyone cos of the styles

*cant believe i refered to compubox*

The difference between, Pac then and now.

The right hand. The foot work. The intelligence. The timing. The chin.

Pac is also fighting at a more comfortable weight.

Factor all this in and I can't see Marquez lasting 2 or 3 rounds against Pac.

The only reason people even bring Marquez up is to prove that he is susceptible to Floyd in the same way. However the Pac that fought Marquez years ago would not have been able to beat Cotto or Margarito.

Pac is a different fighter today then he was when he fought Marquez at 130 and if Floyd falls into the trap of thinking he can pull off some of the same tricks Marquez used then he'll be wondering how he hit the canvas so fast.