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  • #51
    Originally posted by m00ks
    The blood on JMM's nose kept pouring down because PAc repeatedly connected. He was getting hit flush on the face but didn't go down like in the first. Impossible his chin got better. I say Pac's left was just injured and he couldn't put as much power on it as in the first.
    Not to forget, buddy, the golf ball sized lump on the left side of JMM's forehead as well as the welt under his right eye, in addition to the bloody nose.

    These are pieces of evidence that JMM got hit with really big ones other than those that KDd him in the first round. And if he can be hit, he can be hit.

    Much has been made about how JMM landed many on Pac; not much has been made of the fact that none of those that JMM landed got Pac in any serious trouble.

    It can never be said however that Pac, cannot hurt JMM. Three KDs in a single round? The FIRST ROUND, when JMM was FRESH? And all those facial damage mentioned above?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by BoxingNoob
      PacMan by KO. Either that or he gets KO'ed.
      ... very ... interesting

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      • #53
        Originally posted by grayfist
        It can never be said however that Pac, cannot hurt JMM. Three KDs in a single round? The FIRST ROUND, when JMM was FRESH? And all those facial damage mentioned above?
        and still pac couldn't put him away. I don't buy the hand, I don't buy the socks. JMM just wasn't prepared in the first round, but adjusted quite well. I think Pac definitely carries more power, but JMM has better skills. They offset each other in a way that's fun to watch

        I don't have a vested interest in either fighter. I think they are both top-flight fighters and I think that if Pac makes the adjustments he couldn't in the first fight, he may well win. I still have my money on JMM, though.

        Regardless of who wins, you know this will be a great fight. The first one would get my vote for fight of the year. It had everything you could want out of a fight. Knockdowns, 2 of the best fighters in the world, non-stop action, a stunning come from behind performance. What more could you ever want out of a fight?

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        • #54
          I really like Pacman as a fighter. He is a fight fans dream because he brings his best every fight and will go toe to toe without blinking an eye if thats what it takes to win. With that being said Marquez will be prepaired to have a better game plan and will be better focused for this fight. He will be stunned in this fight and maybe knocked down but I can't see the man being knocked out. Pac wins by UD and defeats an overly defensive Juan Manuel.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by vB Martin
            and still pac couldn't put him away. I don't buy the hand, I don't buy the socks. JMM just wasn't prepared in the first round, but adjusted quite well. I think Pac definitely carries more power, but JMM has better skills. They offset each other in a way that's fun to watch

            I don't have a vested interest in either fighter. I think they are both top-flight fighters and I think that if Pac makes the adjustments he couldn't in the first fight, he may well win. I still have my money on JMM, though.

            Regardless of who wins, you know this will be a great fight. The first one would get my vote for fight of the year. It had everything you could want out of a fight. Knockdowns, 2 of the best fighters in the world, non-stop action, a stunning come from behind performance. What more could you ever want out of a fight?
            JMM landed so much (he should have for anyone to say he has better skills, or else, how could he have better skills?) and yet HE did not put Pac away!

            You know what they say, "What is sauce for the goose should be sauce for the gander too!"

            What is beyond arguement, is while Pac did not manage to put JMM away, he came pretty close to it; JMM never came to the vicinity of taking Pac out.

            Granted that JMM was stunned by the first KD; he was ill-prepared. A flash knockdown, could that be? OK. But three flash KDs? Isn't that a stretch?

            And, looking at the damage inflicted on both fighters, Pac had blisters and a sore hand to show for his efforts (and a small lump also on the left forehead), while JMM got a lump the size of a golf ball on HIs left forehead, a wrecked nose, a welt under his right eye, and three KDs to remember the fight by.

            How does one measure fights? By what was NOT done?

            I have always thought it was by what WAS done. The damage that was wrought on JMM could not have come from anything other than punches landed by Pac...

            The question is begged, if JMM connected so much--as being bruited out much too frequently--why was there not as much damage left on the mark as there would have been had there been the number of punches landed that some remember? Could it be that memory is hazy about how much Marquez did really land? I saw the fight again less than 10 hours ago. From what I saw, I can go beyond guessing the answer to that.

            Compustats figures also do not warrant a claim that so much was really landed by JMM; i.e., as much as appears to be claimed by many.

            Note: I don't have any vested interest on Pac either. He doesn't even know I exist!
            Last edited by grayfist; 12-13-2004, 06:28 AM.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by tracylee
              I think youre totally right about that. Since JMM handled Mannys power just fine the first time I dont see him having any problem outpointing him again the second time around. The only difference I expect to see is fewer knockdowns...JMM knows what to look out for and what to expect. I definately go with Marquez by decision

              i think there's a lot of good opinion from both sides here, majority of the guys picking JMM to win, comes out with a decision victory, all of us PAC FANS don't see it going the distance...

              i think at fight night, JMM will be extra careful same as his last fight with Salido, and PAC will go out same like he did with 3k using those new punches and combination that FR is training him to do, the right hand will be polished by February and it will do a lot of wonders for Manny in the fight ...

              Tracy I dont necessary agree with you that there will be less KDs on the rematch, but i am inclined to believe there will be a lot more fireworks in store for us, unfinished business will be settled ....

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              • #57
                Marquez is up in the high altitudes training for his life for this fight. Marquez will be ready to take a decision.

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                • #58
                  Marquez by decision. He is already training hard and seems to be very focused on this fight. I think Manny is looking to much at the future rather than focusing on the fight that is front of him. Also i think Marquez will no to be careful of Manny's big left this time and if he can go the distance then it will be quite an east decision for Marquez.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Supafly25
                    Marquez by decision. He is already training hard and seems to be very focused on this fight. I think Manny is looking to much at the future rather than focusing on the fight that is front of him. Also i think Marquez will no to be careful of Manny's big left this time and if he can go the distance then it will be quite an east decision for Marquez.
                    Easy decision...i dont think so, if pac doesn't ko jmm and it goes to the cards, it's gonna be a close decision whoever wins.

                    btw: jmm needs all the high-altitiude training he can get, the first time they fought, the guy had been on the mountain for 3 months and pac still showed more stamina.

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                    • #60
                      Pacquaio late KO.

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