How many lbs will Tony go over 150 lbs (penalty is $500,000 per pound over the limit)

[stefl14]

You missed the bit where I asked to explain Oscar , thats the most extreme case only because we know the numbers , most fights you do get to see the numbers ,,,

Come on smart ass tell me how to make weight , starting from a week out and then tell me what you do over the the last 24 hours ?

Its a pretty complex process but typically 10% bw can be cut. To simplify, there is no fluid intake during the cut. Short intervals in a steam room are taken to cut weight (not for long) over a certain period. Fighters even chew um and spit it out in saliva.

Instantly after the weight in, fighters take rehydration formulas which are specially formulated to speed up rehydration (a drink with the right concentrations of carbohydrates and salt can also do this). This way fighters can replenish weight properly and healthily at a rate of about 1 litre (1lb) per hour.

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1. comparing a guy who just fought at 154 and going down to 150 to guys who fought at 200-220 and go down to 175 is just ridiculous. you shouldn't even bother.

byrd was a career heavyweight and then he tried to go to 175. roy jones bulked up to 190-200.

not exactly the same as a margarito who is a career 147 guy who fought 154 after a year and half layoff and now going down 4 lbs.

2. delahoya wasn't weightdrained. he was overdieted , underweight , overtrained......whatever.....he wasn't weightdrained. he was supposedly at 150 weeks before the fight.

You need to get into a gym buddy and try it ,, he wasnt weight drained he was over dieted and underweight lol ,,,, thats weight drained !!

[Left Hook Tua]

You need to get into a gym buddy and try it ,, he wasnt weight drained he was over dieted and underweight lol ,,,, thats weight drained !!

you don't understand what weightdrained means in boxing.

weightdrained in boxing terms is when a guy has to dehydrate and cut so much water weight to make the weigh in.

that's not what happened to delahoya.

delahoya tried to keep his weight near the weight limit for most of his camp.

that's why he was at 150 weeks before the fight.

[southpaw_07]

Manny 144 lbs !!! that was a lot less than i thought..1 division below

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Its a pretty complex process but typically 10% bw can be cut. To simplify, there is no fluid intake during the cut. Short intervals in a steam room are taken to cut weight (not for long) over a certain period. Fighters even chew um and spit it out in saliva.

Instantly after the weight in, fighters take rehydration formulas which are specially formulated to speed up rehydration (a drink with the right concentrations of carbohydrates and salt can also do this). This way fighters can replenish weight properly and healthily at a rate of about 1 litre (1lb) per hour.

10% of what if your 10% underweight , you talk like it dont matter what your are when starting the process that you will lose 10% regardless , bull**** , not without durietics and playing with your sodium intake a week earlier ,,,, the body will only let go so much fluid , if you lower your muscle mass and fat content the less you can dry out , which is why Margo is only 4 pounds away , according to you he can make 140 because he 154 now ,,, if he was fighting at 154 he would be over 160 now , you know why because its a sliding scale , Margo is down so low because he had to get his mass down to be able to dry out a little bit to make it .

Margos current weight of 154 proves your 10% across the board is bull**** .

[Me La Pelan]

VACANT championship bouts shouldn't be decided like this..... I think that the catchweights issue is BS. Like we don't have enough divisions already....

The sanctioning bodies should put a stop to the "catchweights". If you wanna come in at 148 thats cool but the limit is 154. No if ands or but's about it. If you feel it would be a disadvantage to have your opponent come in at 154 then stay your a$$ down at 147.
All championship bouts are 12 rounds, and every "body" makes their own rules... so why can't they add this to the list. People are taking advantage in boxing currently because no one back in the days thought of this trickery...

I just don't understand how you could even put this crap in the contracts. This is Bob "Anti-Christ" Arum's doing!

[stefl14]

10% of what if your 10% underweight , you talk like it dont matter what your are when starting the process that you will lose 10% regardless , bull**** , not without durietics and playing with your sodium intake a week earlier ,,,, the body will only let go so much fluid , if you lower your muscle mass and fat content the less you can dry out , which is why Margo is only 4 pounds away , according to you he can make 140 because he 154 now ,,, if he was fighting at 154 he would be over 160 now , you know why because its a sliding scale , Margo is down so low because he had to get his mass down to be able to dry out a little bit to make it .

Margos current weight of 154 proves your 10% across the board is bull**** .

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I know personally an MMA fighter (not a boxer but still to do with rehydration who loses about 6kg (13 pounds) to make weight and he is pretty ripped (look up andre winner). I didn't mean 10% across the board always works, I am just saying that is the norm. I know your body holds onto water, but you can force water out of it. It isn't healthy to do if you don't know what you are doing, but it can be done safely. I don't know how people calculate that Pac has an advantage when Margarito is going to be near enough 20 pounds more than Pac.

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Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I know personally an MMA fighter (not a boxer but still to do with rehydration who loses about 6kg (13 pounds) to make weight and he is pretty ripped (look up andre winner). I didn't mean 10% across the board always works, I am just saying that is the norm. I know your body holds onto water, but you can force water out of it. It isn't healthy to do if you don't know what you are doing, but it can be done safely. I don't know how people calculate that Pac has an advantage when Margarito is going to be near enough 20 pounds more than Pac.

How can he be 20 pds more when he is only 154 now , you saying he is 8% dehydrated before he starts to make weight ,,, your own numbers dont add up buddy , because its not across the board its relative to the fighter in question and where thay are in terms of muscle and body fat , the numbers Margo is showing now is the first sign weight will be an issue , if he was going well weight wise he should be at least 160 not 154 .

[stefl14]

How can he be 20 pds more when he is only 154 now , you saying he is 8% dehydrated before he starts to make weight ,,, your own numbers dont add up buddy , because its not across the board its relative to the fighter in question and where thay are in terms of muscle and body fat , the numbers Margo is showing now is the first sign weight will be an issue , if he was going well weight wise he should be at least 160 not 154 .

You are ******ed. He was 154 on 24-7 after a workout. My trainer (former world mw champ chris pyatt) says he used to sweat up to 8 pounds in a heavy workout)

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You are ******ed. He was 154 on 24-7 after a workout. My trainer (former world mw champ chris pyatt) says he used to sweat up to 8 pounds in a heavy workout)

And some would sweat 2 plds in a workout you assume alot of things , we took Wif Gentzen to Glasgow to defend his Empire title against Gary Jacobs in the mid 80s and Wilf would really retain fluids we had to monitor his salt levels over the last 7 days to get is body to release it we never had these issues at 140 but at 147 , sodium is an old time durietic they got much better stuff today ,,, fighters are all different in the way they hold fluid and weight ,,, based on all the evidence and looking at Margo I feel he will have weight issues , I doubt he will be over 158-160 when he should be 165 170 on the night ,,, time will tell .