Alex Ariza helped Pacquiao climb multiple weight classes without losing speed

[KevinHenry007]

Bump...

Im gonna love bumping these old ariza threads, and showing how ****** and two-faced floyd fanboys are....

Please tell me how this compares?

Has Floyd KO'd GGG, Charlo, Kirkland, Rosado or anyone of such in 2 rounds?

Has he destroyed an Erislandy Lara or Canelo or fighter of such and then KO'd them in the 12 rounds after destorying them in the previous 11?

Has he increased his punch output to 100 punches a round with dazzling speed and power all the while making opponents gun shy because they're scared to get KO'd?

Has he dropped anyone with the chin of Shane Mosley?

Has Floyd put drug stipulations on random drug testing?

Because all that would be the equivalent to an 08/09 Manny Pacquiao. Until Floyd does anything remotely close to any of the above, PED accusations can fly all day. Until then, you're making yourself look silly; Alex Ariza or not.

[KevinHenry007]

Floyd is still the same powerless puncher that relies on reflexes, speed and defense.

There is no comparison to the PED peddling steroid Pac of 08/09.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Please tell me how this compares?

Has Floyd KO'd GGG, Charlo, Kirkland, Rosado or anyone of such in 2 rounds?

Has he destroyed Erislandy Lara or Canelo then KO'd him in the 12th round?

Has he increased his punch output to 100 punches a round with dazzling speed and power all the while making opponents gun shy because they're scared to get KO'd?

Has he dropped anyone with the chin of Shane Mosley?

Has Floyd put drug stipulations on random drug testing?

Because all that would be the equivalent to an 08/09 Manny Pacquiao. Until Floyd does anything remotely close to any of the above, PED accusations can fly all day. Until then, you're making yourself look silly; Alex Ariza or not.

Um,, he just started working with him,, they have had literally no fights together yet..

Im pretty sure floyd will have much better legs and will have more power under ariza


Of all the guys in the world to work with, why would floyd, who has had a great career without ariza, now bring him into camp knowing that he is basically a juice doctor..

"its just for leg stretches doe"

[torosboxing75]

Bump...

Im gonna love bumping these old ariza threads, and showing how ****** and two-faced floyd fanboys are....

HOLY****!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Floyd is still the same powerless puncher that relies on reflexes, speed and defense.

There is no comparison to the PED peddling steroid Pac of 08/09.

So next may, floyd wont look like a prime floyd again.. Your saying he will look aged like he has in his last few fights....

I dont expect floyd to turn into a hulk like marquez did, but i do expect to to all of a sudden have rejuvenated legs, endurance, etc.. I expect to see the floyd that fought gatti next year with ariza..

Why else would he bring this dude into camp if not for the juice????
Like floyd had trouble being in shape.. LMAO

[KevinHenry007]

Um,, he just started working with him,, they have had literally no fights together yet..

Im pretty sure floyd will have much better legs and will have more power under ariza


Of all the guys in the world to work with, why would floyd, who has had a great career without ariza, now bring him into camp knowing that he is basically a juice doctor..

"its just for leg stretches doe"

Again, until Floyd's performances are remotely similar to that of Pac in 08/09, there is really no comparison here.

Victor Ortiz dropped Maidana like 4 times. Amir Khan dropped Maidana once. Josesito Lopez almost had Maidana out for crying out loud. Mayweather couldn't even put a dent in Maidana and people are accusing him of Juicing?

Are you people ******ed or what?

No one accused Pac of juicing solely because of his association with Ariza. They accused him of juicing because he got bigger, older, stronger, faster, ect all at the same time, refuesed random testing and was getting "secret shakes".

There's no comparison here.

[jqSide]

Conditioning coaches are a dime a dozen. If you review old Pac fights when he was with Ariza you'd see him gasping for breath in the early rounds of the fight. Ariza happened to be at the right time and at the right place. A superstar was being born with or without Ariza. Fast forward, Pac seemed like he could do 15 rounds in his latest fights.

Bottom line is boxers need to take over their own conditioning. It's their own bodies. They should decide when and when not to employ a conditioning trainer.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Again, until Floyd's performances are remotely similar to that of Pac in 08/09, there is really no comparison here.

Victor Ortiz dropped Maidana like 4 times. Amir Khan dropped him once. Josesito Lopez almost had him out for crying out loud. Mayweather couldn't even put a dent in Maidana and people are accusing him of Juicing?

Are you people ******ed or what?

No one accused Pac of juicing solely because of his association with Ariza. They accused him of juicing because he got bigger, older, stronger, faster, ect all at the same time, refuesed random testing and was getting "secret shakes".

There's no comparison here.

Jesus you are ******

Was ariza with floyd when he fought ortiz???????????????


Why did floyd bring him into camp, if not for the juice????

"leg stretches doe"

[KevinHenry007]

Jesus you are ******

Was ariza with floyd when he fought ortiz???????????????


Why did floyd bring him into camp, if not for the juice????

"leg stretches doe"

Only ****** one is yourself. You're up here accusing someone of juicing when you haven't even seen them fight with said party?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Only ****** one is yourself. You're up here accusing someone of juicing when you haven't even seen them fight with said party?

WHy did floyd bring a known cheater into his camp?????? for the next 2 years


WHY????????????????????