Do You People Even Watch Boxing?

[TheGreatA]

An expert also knows not to put their money on a limited bomber based on a puncher's chance.

Not saying Maidana can't win, quite the opposite, but it's not difficult to see why people are favouring Khan in this match-up.

[Rassclot]

The only thing Paulie could get in were pitty-pats (save the jokes haha) I had money on Paulie. Even still; Maidana doesnt have the boxing skills that Malignaggi has. I just dont see Maidana being able to get the gloves on Khan's chin when he needs to. He's going to be frustrated all night and Khan will pick him apart.

the fact that you had money on Paulie tells me you know nothing about boxing.


Khan wins that matchup 99 out of 100 times.


Terrible match up for Paulie. Slower, shorter, no KO power period.


Paulie was still able to mark up Khan. ummmmmmm ya.


Styles make fights. Punchers blow out chins. That is what they do. You need the chin + Speed to beat a puncher.

[Rassclot]

An expert also knows not to put their money on a limited bomber based on a puncher's chance.

Not saying Maidana can't win, quite the opposite, but it's not difficult to see why people are favouring Khan in this match-up.

Look up Rocky Marciano's entire career.


Julian Jackson's success.

George Foreman.

David Tua.

A young Manny Pacquiao that blew out Barrera with just the straight left.

Edwin Valero.

Now Marcos Maidana.


Punchers historically only lose to fighters with great chins, better boxing ability and faster reflexes.


Punchers almost always prevail when pitted against a technician with a soft chin. that is a fact of life.

[TheGreatA]

Look up Rocky Marciano's entire career.

Maidana is not Rocky Marciano.

Maidana is a guy who lost to Alexander Kotelnik, he really did or atleast it was very close regardless of any Maidana revisionists claiming otherwise, and whose career best win (and his only notable win really) is getting up from the canvas 3 times to stop an untested prospect.

He is not exactly a world beater, not that this necessarily means he can't beat Khan.

[Rassclot]

Maidana is not Rocky Marciano.

Maidana is a guy who lost to Alexander Kotelnik, he really did or atleast it was very close regardless of any Maidana revisionists claiming otherwise, and whose career best win (and his only notable win really) is getting up from the canvas 3 times to stop an untested prospect.

He is not exactly a world beater, not that this necessarily means he can't beat Khan.

If Maidana was Rocky Marciano (Italian tied to the mob), he would've gotten a wide UD for that fight.

That was home-town decision through and through. Maidana is also the only person that did damage in that fight with Kotelnik hurt against the ropes several times.


However, I would say stylistically Kotelnik is a way better match-up for Maidana because of his ridiculous defense and good chin.

LOL @ calling Victor Ortiz an untested prospect. He will KO Khan too if they fought. Victor is top 1 or 2 at 140 lbs.

[TheGreatA]

Look up Rocky Marciano's entire career.


Julian Jackson's success.

George Foreman.

David Tua.

A young Manny Pacquiao that blew out Barrera with just the straight left.

Edwin Valero.

Now Marcos Maidana.


Punchers historically only lose to fighters with great chins, better boxing ability and faster reflexes.


Punchers almost always prevail when pitted against a technician with a soft chin. that is a fact of life.

That's a "fact" you made up in order to rile up supporters of Amir Khan.

Maidana can punch a bit, but he's not even in the class of the late Valero let alone Manny Pacquiao or George Foreman.

Better skills, faster handspeed and solid defense counts for a lot.

If Maidana was Rocky Marciano (Italian tied to the mob), he would've gotten a wide UD for that fight.

That was home-town decision through and through. Maidana is also the only person that did damage in that fight with Kotelnik hurt against the ropes several times.


However, I would say stylistically Kotelnik is a way better match-up for Maidana because of his ridiculous defense and good chin.

LOL @ calling Victor Ortiz an untested prospect. He will KO Khan too if they fought. Victor is top 1 or 2 at 140 lbs.

Tell me about your scorecards then. Round by round.

Who exactly had Victor Ortiz fought before facing Maidana? It was his first test and he failed. Khan might similarly fail against Maidana, but you're supporting your argument with nonsense. You're acting like Maidana is the second coming of Mike Tyson which is hardly the case. He's very beatable, but has the power to make a difference if he lands solidly.

[Rassclot]

That's a "fact" you made up in order to rile up supporters of Amir Khan.

Maidana can punch a bit, but he's not even in the class of the late Valero let alone Manny Pacquiao or George Foreman.

Better skills, faster handspeed and solid defense counts for a lot.



Tell me about your scorecards then. Round by round.

Who exactly had Victor Ortiz fought before facing Maidana? It was his first test and he failed. Khan might similarly fail against Maidana, but you're supporting your argument with nonsense. You're acting like Maidana is the second coming of Mike Tyson which is hardly the case. He's very beatable, but has the power to make a difference if he lands solidly.

It is a fact because i have supporting evidence. all you are spewing is pure non-sensical theoretical garbage.

i've listed fighters whos entire careers composed of knocking out fools while having limited skillsets.

You're telling me Rocky Marciano is fast and technical? George Foreman with his 2 left feet? Valero and his hands down bolos from the sides all day is technical? LMAO

Marcos is a very good puncher. He has KO's with both hands. KO's to the body. KO's where his opponent fainted and KO's where ppl straight up quit in the middle of the ring. Cayo and Victor Ortiz > Khan's entire resume.

LOL @ Victor Ortiz being green. that was only a year ago you idiot. who has he beaten since that's better than Maidana? Are you mentally ******ed? Seriously.

I never listed Tyson as an example did I? You did. So stop putting words in my mouth. You're losing this argument badly. Just stop before I make you look even dumber.

[donovan$]

Wlad Klitscko vs Sam Peter

[Rassclot]

Wlad Klitscko vs Sam Peter

That is actually a good one. But remember Wlad had to pick himself up off the canvas 3 times to win that fight. I don't see Khan with the same ability.

the 2nd time Sam didn't have it anymore.

[TheGreatA]

It is a fact because i have supporting evidence. all you are spewing is pure non-sensical theoretical garbage.

And this supporting "evidence" is comparing all-time great punchers to Marcos Maidana.

If you want evidence of a technical fighter being exposed for a suspect chin, yet going onto have success, check out the current heavyweight champ.

i've listed fighters whos entire careers composed of knocking out fools while having limited skillsets.

You're telling me Rocky Marciano is fast and technical? George Foreman with his 2 left feet? Valero and his hands down bolos from the sides all day is technical? LMAO

Marciano wasn't fast nor was he a textbook boxer, but along with his devastating KO power he had seemingly unending stamina, set a relentless pace and knew how to get inside the reach of his taller opponents. Foreman actually had fairly fast feet and cut off the ring well in his prime. Valero wasn't exactly great himself but still better than Maidana.

Marcos is a very good puncher. He has KO's with both hands. KO's to the body. KO's where his opponent fainted and KO's where ppl straight up quit in the middle of the ring. Cayo and Victor Ortiz > Khan's entire resume.

Against Ortiz he was landing at will with overhand rights, and Ortiz simply quit after having eaten enough of them. I have not seen his earth-shattering power yet displayed against world class competition. Again, not that he needs to be a killer puncher to KO Khan, but he does need to be one if he is to be compared to Marciano, Foreman and Jackson.

LOL @ Victor Ortiz being green. that was only a year ago you idiot. who has he beaten since that's better than Maidana? Are you mentally ******ed? Seriously.

You're taking all this a bit too seriously there. A self-claimed expert should know about learning experiences in boxing, Ortiz-Maidana clearly being one. Ortiz has come out a better fighter from his loss, not that he is an invincible monster even now.

I never listed Tyson as an example did I? You did. So stop putting words in my mouth. You're losing this argument badly. Just stop before I make you look even dumber.

Nor did I claim you did. Saying you are making him out to be a Mike Tyson is a humorous exaggeration on my part, one that is rather usual in boxing circles. But you have compared him to the likes of Manny Pacquiao, Rocky Marciano and George Foreman which to be frank is ridiculous as Maidana hasn't accomplished anything to deserve such acclaim. A more fitting comparison would be fellow Argentinian Jorge Castro, who was beaten by Terry Norris of all people, because he was slow as molasses and lacked the imagination and technical skill to land any telling punches