Why is Caballero Not Fighting Top FW's not name Lopez or Gamboa??

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    #51
    Originally posted by mariobrotherpr
    The big fuss is he is just like Baldo, a titleholder with no elite level skills whatsoever.

    Juanma keeps on winning, to bigger, better names than him.

    You even say it's Top Rank the one who doesn't want the fight.... yet badmouth Lopez on it.

    Of course I blame Top Rank because according to you guys JuanMa fights who they want him to.

    His team should share some of the blame too, managers, etc.

    Maybe JuanMa himself wants the fight, but his team and Arum's matchmakers don't.

    That tells me something.

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      #52
      Originally posted by jreckoning
      Caballero fought and defended his titles 10 times.

      And took one in Thailand, the other in Canada.

      He's not Baldo.

      HBO raved about him beating the ***** out of Yordan.

      You just hate to hate when the fact is he's won 16 straight and keeps winning.
      And about a zillion times in boxing Mecca Panama, also.

      I just hate the fact that while Juanma has won 30 straight (undefeated), with a 90% KO percentage, you try to con me with thinking a mediocre fighter, with two unavenged losses, one by KO, who can be seen having a hard time with a original 108 pounder like Parra, with obvious flaws anyone can notice (in most of his fights, I might add), is the **** and Juanma is afraid of him.

      Caballero doesn't have a chance.

      Sure. All the while Juanma beat Rafa, has a showdown with Gamboa, and calls out J.M. Marquez.

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        #53
        Originally posted by mariobrotherpr
        And about a zillion times in boxing Mecca Panama, also.

        I just hate the fact that while Juanma has won 30 straight (undefeated), with a 90% KO percentage, you try to con me with thinking a mediocre fighter, with two unavenged losses, one by KO, who can be seen having a hard time with a original 108 pounder like Parra, with obvious flaws anyone can notice (in most of his fights, I might add), is the **** and Juanma is afraid of him.

        Caballero doesn't have a chance.

        Sure. All the while Juanma beat Rafa, has a showdown with Gamboa, and calls out J.M. Marquez.

        Caballero hasn't lost since 2004. Let's pretend it was yesterday why don't we.

        All he has done is travelled and one and beat PDL at least 3 years before JuanMa did. He wasted Molitor and Somsak when Somsak was hot and had just been in the fight of the year.

        He is no bum. He dazzled on HBO and went all around the world to take belts.

        You should want this fight so you can try to prove me wrong.

        Or is this gonna turn into a Mayweather type excuse, like oh he's so good he doesn't have to fight them cuz he will beat them.

        Let JuanMa prove it in the ring.

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          #54
          Originally posted by jreckoning
          Caballero hasn't lost since 2004. Let's pretend it was yesterday why don't we.

          All he has done is travelled and one and beat PDL at least 3 years before JuanMa did. He wasted Molitor and Somsak when Somsak was hot and had just been in the fight of the year.

          He is no bum. He dazzled on HBO and went all around the world to take belts.

          You should want this fight so you can try to prove me wrong.

          Or is this gonna turn into a Mayweather type excuse, like oh he's so good he doesn't have to fight them cuz he will beat them.

          Let JuanMa prove it in the ring.
          I have no problem with Juanma facing him as a tune-up. Because that's what he is, a tune up. I said it about a dozen posts ago. But let's agree to disagree.

          If by the grace of the Allmighty, Caballero beats Juanma, I'll give YOU props.
          I expect the same in return if Juanma spanks him.

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            #55
            Originally posted by mariobrotherpr
            I thought the system worked like this:

            1. Boxers train.

            2. Promoters get them fight.

            3. Boxers fight.

            4. Promoter gets a cut for setting up the fight, some expenses, etc.


            Apparently, in your system:

            1. Boxers train.

            2. Boxers look out for fights.

            3. Boxers fight.

            4. Promoters get a cut for.... well for booking the MGM Grand, maybe.


            Only self-promoted fighters work that way.

            Geat real.
            No, you get real.

            The promoter works for the boxer is not the other way around.

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              #56
              HBO explained that nobody wants to fight him. thats menas he's the baddest muda***a.

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                #57
                Originally posted by mariobrotherpr
                I have no problem with Juanma facing him as a tune-up. Because that's what he is, a tune up. I said it about a dozen posts ago. But let's agree to disagree.

                If by the grace of the Allmighty, Caballero beats Juanma, I'll give YOU props.
                I expect the same in return if Juanma spanks him.

                Fair enough. No way in hell is he a tune up though.

                We'll talk plenty of mad ***** if this one goes off for sure.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by mariobrotherpr
                  I answered with reason. If you want to play set up, like I said, I'm not letting you play DA.

                  If you want to say that Luevano does not have a better victory, go ahead and say it, no one is stopping you.


                  I'll answer the same thing.
                  No you talking about skill that really doesn't mean better. Because, you have take styles and intangibles into effect. Which has nothing to do with skills.

                  In the 90's Ricardo Lopez was arguably the most skilled fighter of the decade. However, Roy Jones was the best fighter of the decade.

                  Do you see the difference?

                  The question wasn't who is more skilled, it was who was the better, so how can you say Luevano is better when he doesn't really have a win better than Ponce De Leon nor a win better than Molitor really.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jreckoning
                    Caballero hasn't lost since 2004. Let's pretend it was yesterday why don't we.

                    All he has done is travelled and one and beat PDL at least 3 years before JuanMa did. He wasted Molitor and Somsak when Somsak was hot and had just been in the fight of the year.

                    He is no bum. He dazzled on HBO and went all around the world to take belts.

                    You should want this fight so you can try to prove me wrong.

                    Or is this gonna turn into a Mayweather type excuse, like oh he's so good he doesn't have to fight them cuz he will beat them.

                    Let JuanMa prove it in the ring.
                    That is exactly what this is turning into.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      How about Lontchi?

                      Wonder what his fan base was when JuanMa fought him.
                      Exactly,

                      those type of excuses doesn't fly at all anymore.

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